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TOPIC: Latest Mis-Leading Tundra Commercial
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos/t/e707915212a12b48?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 30 2009 8:24 pm
From: someone@some.domain (someone@some.domain)
In article <ANydnYKQOY5P9HbXnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@earthlink.com>, "C. E. White" <cewhite3remove@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>"dbu`" <nospam@nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message
>news:-4CdnU86zfdtj3fXnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> In article <pfSdnUwnF6u2n3fXnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3remove@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4ae5c972$0$1603$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>>> > The biggest problem with the Tundra is that not enough buyers are
>>> > willing
>>> > to pay premium for toughness or longevity.
>>>
>>> When I was pricing trucks last February, the Tundras were heavily
>>> discounted. I actually paid more for an F150 than I was qouted for a
>>> Tundra
>>> with similar equipment (smaller V8, Access Cab). One trip down a rough
>>> road
>>> convinced me the Tundra was a no go. Try running one over a few bumps
>>> with
>>> the tailgate down and you wouldn't want one either. It was painfully
>>> obvious
>>> the Tundra was the inferior truck. Toyota builds some fine vehicle. The
>>> Tundra isn't one of them. I probably would be able to get buy with a
>>> Tundra,
>>> but I prefer something that is overbuilt to something that is just good
>>> enough to get buy. A Tundra wouldn't last some farmers I know a year. The
>>> frame is too weak, the sheet metal to timmy. And given Toyota mediocre
>>> reliabilty record of late and high Toyota repair prices, I couldn't see
>>> taking a chance on a Tundra with my money.
>>>
>>> Ed.
>>
>> I was at my Toyota dealer today getting my Sienna serviced, oil change.
>> They had a demo board set up showing the difference between the Tundra,
>> F150, Dodge PU, Chev PU and Nissan, showing the tie rod, brake, frame
>> member. The Tundra seemed to have the most heavy duty components
>> compared with the rest. The tie rod and brake disk assy seemed to be
>> the two that stuck out the most. Maybe the Tundra is a pretty good
>> truck after all.
>
>But which Ford, Dodge, or Chevy - HD, SD, 2007, 2008, 2009? Ford did the
>same thing, and their parts looked better....
>
>When you control the message, you can always make yourself look good.
>
>> The 2010 Prius is a mighty impressive vehicle too. It might be in my
>> future sights a couple years down the road.
>
>I was actually suprised how roomy the Prius is. My SO wishes she had one. I
>don't think it would be at the very top of my list for a new car, butI'd at
>least be willing to consider one - particaulrly if I changed my life style
>and had a shorter commute (more city miles). One of the guys at my office
>has one of the previous generation Prius (actually his wife's) and he is
>really happy with it - zero problems so far and great gas mileage (even on
>the highway). My SO's parent also have one of the prior version, and they
>love theirs too. They are very common around here and I have not heard
>anyone complaining about them.
>
>Ed
>
my best friend buys a new one every other year and says they constantly
improve them also. she does a lot of commuting and kid's taxi. she hit the
side of a red light runner in a 2003 or 04 and it really kept her and daughter
from injury. didn't total it either. pretty rare in a t boning.
she won't loan it to me. durn.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 11:53 am
From: "JoeSpareBedroom"
"C. E. White" <cewhite3remove@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:XqWdnax08t_E-3bXnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.autos,alt.autos.toyota,alt.autos.toyota.trucks
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 4:27 AM
> Subject: Re: Latest Mis-Leading Tundra Commercial
>
>
>> I'm Right wrote:
>>> That is odd when I drive I see 30+ year old Chevy, GMC, Ford and a Dodge
>>> once in a while.
>>> Chevy PU's from 73-87 are everywhere, the 88-98 are too as well as the
>>> newr chevys
>>> I see 80-86 Fords, 87-97 fords and up. Dodges are mostly 94 and up, with
>>> a few older 88-ish with a cummins.
>>> I do see a few 89-94 Toy PU. The truck they should have kept building.
>>
>> Toyota really hit their stride with Tundra. It's rather over-built, but
>> that's why it lasts so long. If you want something that's just "good
>> enough" but cheaper truck that will last 1/3 as long. The Tundra has a
>> stronger frame and thicker steel throughout. But it goes beyond just the
>> design, Toyotas are also more reliable, repairs are reasonably priced,
>> and parts availability is excellent.
>
> Over built? Overbuilt for what - carrying a couple of bags of groceries?
> Seriously, have you actually driven a current style Tundra? It is clearly
> inferior to anything form Ford or Chevy or even Dodge.
What characteristics of THE RIDE provide clues about the heftiness of the
frame, or other aspects of how it's built?
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