Monday, February 14, 2011

alt.autos - 5 new messages in 2 topics - digest

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* Depreciation - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos/t/42605948e926b649?hl=en
* *** WARNING *** DON'T BUY A HYUNDAI ACCENT! They're Hyundai's [And America's]
Answer To The YUGO! - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos/t/8b293a77529d8c2e?hl=en

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TOPIC: Depreciation
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos/t/42605948e926b649?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 27 2011 7:22 pm
From: dsi1


On 1/25/2011 2:46 AM, C. E. White wrote:
> "Al"<albundy2@mailinator.com> wrote in message
> news:1b335ac9-07df-48bc-8283-345c3295cc39@l22g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
>> My GMC Sierra has all the gauges and I keep an eye on them.
>
> But how many are in fact "real" gauges? GM does still include a real
> pressure transducer for oil pressure (or at least they did the last time I
> looked at GM Truck Manual), BUT the dash oil pressure gauge is not connected
> directly to the transducer. The signal for all of the gauges is routed
> trough the PCM, so GM can play the same sort of games with the dash reading
> as anyone else. Maybe the reading are "real time" or maybe not (hard to tell
> from the wiring diagrams). But at least they do gather actual oil pressure
> information beyond some and none - although given the reliability of most
> cheap transducers I am not sure there is any practical difference.
>
> Ed
>
>

The temperature gauge in my 99 Camry sure acts like a fake analog gauge.
I've never had a gauge that was so rock steady. That's OK, it would
probably cause me worry if moved all over the place like real gauges do.
Thanks for the low down.

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TOPIC: *** WARNING *** DON'T BUY A HYUNDAI ACCENT! They're Hyundai's [And
America's] Answer To The YUGO!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos/t/8b293a77529d8c2e?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 13 2011 3:48 pm
From: SalamiSam


Sorry Hyundai lovers, but the South Koreans are NOT Japanese when it
comes to auto manufacturing.

And another 'sorry' -- that I foolishly BOUGHT an Accent a few months
ago! As an economy car, short trips.

$14,000 ... !

Cash back? Forget it.

Four-door. Tight squeeze for three-and-one-half persons.

Corners like your wagon that you pulled when you were six!

Noise? Over 30 mph it sounds as if there's a big hole in the floor.

No in-dash temperature gauge -- and no explanation why from Hyundai
headquarters or the dealer.

Engine warms up -- but only after 12-to-14 minutes idling.

Gets about 26 mpg highway, 8- to 9-mpg less than advertised.

Handling, ease, engine ambiance -- make me think this devil will start
to give up after 30- 35,000 miles, if that!


DON'T SAY YOU WEREN'T WARNED!

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 13 2011 4:36 pm
From: Paul in Houston TX


SalamiSam wrote:
> Sorry Hyundai lovers, but the South Koreans are NOT Japanese when it
> comes to auto manufacturing.
>
> And another 'sorry' -- that I foolishly BOUGHT an Accent a few months
> ago! As an economy car, short trips.
>
> $14,000 ... !
>
> Cash back? Forget it.
>
> Four-door. Tight squeeze for three-and-one-half persons.
>
> Corners like your wagon that you pulled when you were six!
>
> Noise? Over 30 mph it sounds as if there's a big hole in the floor.
>
> No in-dash temperature gauge -- and no explanation why from Hyundai
> headquarters or the dealer.
>
> Engine warms up -- but only after 12-to-14 minutes idling.
>
> Gets about 26 mpg highway, 8- to 9-mpg less than advertised.
>
> Handling, ease, engine ambiance -- make me think this devil will start
> to give up after 30- 35,000 miles, if that!
>
> DON'T SAY YOU WEREN'T WARNED!

Accent I don't know, but my Kia Spectra (Hyundai Elantra)
is probably the best all around car I have ever owned or driven.
And I have owned or rented many different cars, hundreds,
from Corvettes to Corollas.


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 13 2011 5:45 pm
From: "Ed Pawlowski"


?
"SalamiSam" <perryneheum@hotmail.com> wrote
>
> And another 'sorry' -- that I foolishly BOUGHT an Accent a few months
> ago! As an economy car, short trips.
>
> $14,000 ... !
>
> Cash back? Forget it.
>
> Four-door. Tight squeeze for three-and-one-half persons.

So you never put your fat ass into one in the showroom? I found that out
in three seconds. OK car for some of the younger crowd, but I'm very happy
with my second Sonata. I'm thinking of adding an Elantra.

You made the decision and you should have seen the fit problem up front.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 13 2011 11:43 pm
From: "John"


What was that company who had all the recalls ... Toy , no that wasnt it,
Tosser, no , thats right TOYOTA!!!


"Ed Pawlowski" <esp@snetnospam.net> wrote in message
news:wJadndC0T-PeFMXQnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@giganews.com...
> ?
> "SalamiSam" <perryneheum@hotmail.com> wrote
>>
>> And another 'sorry' -- that I foolishly BOUGHT an Accent a few months
>> ago! As an economy car, short trips.
>>
>> $14,000 ... !
>>
>> Cash back? Forget it.
>>
>> Four-door. Tight squeeze for three-and-one-half persons.
>
> So you never put your fat ass into one in the showroom? I found that out
> in three seconds. OK car for some of the younger crowd, but I'm very
> happy with my second Sonata. I'm thinking of adding an Elantra.
>
> You made the decision and you should have seen the fit problem up front.


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