Thursday, February 3, 2011

rec.autos.makers.honda - 6 new messages in 2 topics - digest

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* CRX OIL DRAIN CRUSH WASHER: What size is a 1-over washer? - 5 messages, 3
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http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/00fb0fbd8ca5f029?hl=en
* Anti-matter - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/685ee9c91d1ef52b?hl=en

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TOPIC: CRX OIL DRAIN CRUSH WASHER: What size is a 1-over washer?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/00fb0fbd8ca5f029?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 1 2011 4:33 am
From: Tegger


Meatman <KevinLee33@comcast.net> wrote in
news:e0b120de-00b8-4f7a-8e05-f85f2535c432@d19g2000yql.googlegroups.com:

> Had go with the 1-over oil drain plug from Advance/AZ/Reilly' or the
> like as it was stripping out. I know the routine, but the damage
> started before I got to it :-) "I" use a torque wrench :-) Still buy
> Honda filters but the only way to get the stock crush washer (dealer)
> to fit is to wrench it on in a vice ever so tenderly. So what size am
> I looking for...or how to tell on my own? Just curious if anyone has
> the specs on the tip of their tongue.

It's 7/8" overall diameter, with a 9/16" hole in the middle.
The OD's not really important, so an inch OD would do.

You can get nylon and other types of washers at any auto parts store.

> Don't waste a lot of time on this, pls.


I have some sitting right here.

> Also, for those who don't
> know...basically walk into your dealer and ask for 'x' number of oil
> filters and they won't ask the model/type for anything from '86-2010
> (which is almost everything). AFAIK the only difference is the S2000
> filter,


There is just one filter that fits most models (15400-PLM-A02), but
there are a couple of other sizes in use, so they SHOULD ask you what it's
going on.

--
Tegger


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 2 2011 1:16 am
From: Meatman


> > Don't waste a lot of time on this, please...
Nice one, Lenny Bruce. I meant don't waste too much time trying to
find the answer/research. If you know...then you know. That would be
sufficient info.

> There is just one filter that fits most models (15400-PLM-A02)...
My point exactly. "I need an Accord filter"."I need a CRX filter".
9.7/10 times (oh, and they know me) if they threw a filter at you/me,
it would fit. Period. Pretty universal in the filter department by a
friggin long shot.

> there are a "couple" of other sizes in use...
yep. I noted one of the two you mentioned. A "couple'" is two.
S2000 is one. What's the other one, honestly? Curious now.
Ridgeline?

>> You can get nylon and other types of washers at any auto parts store.
Now back to sincerity: After doing the one-over plug I figgered I
stay with the alum crush as the dealer does. No difference using
nylon or similar so long as it has a crush/formable factor to it and
won't melt/deform under heat...as compared to stiff generic steel
washer?? I've never tested any other options but do remember nylon
washers on a few cars over time. Maybe the best option considering my
situation. And cheapest.

And, yes, actually...despite the sarcasm...thanks Tigger! Much
obliged yet again :-)

Kevin


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 2 2011 5:38 am
From: Tegger


Meatman <KevinLee33@comcast.net> wrote in news:a4da827c-b86f-4844-9fb6-
c6e71dd2267c@k9g2000yqi.googlegroups.com:

>> > Don't waste a lot of time on this, please...
>
> Nice one, Lenny Bruce. I meant don't waste too much time trying to
> find the answer/research. If you know...then you know. That would be
> sufficient info.
>
>> There is just one filter that fits most models (15400-PLM-A02)...
>
> My point exactly. "I need an Accord filter"."I need a CRX filter".
> 9.7/10 times (oh, and they know me) if they threw a filter at you/me,
> it would fit. Period. Pretty universal in the filter department by a
> friggin long shot.
>
>> there are a "couple" of other sizes in use...
>
> yep. I noted one of the two you mentioned. A "couple'" is two.
> S2000 is one. What's the other one, honestly? Curious now.
> Ridgeline?

Probably. And an Acura version (maybe the 5-cylinder engine). I'd have to
ask my parts guy to be sure.


>
>>> You can get nylon and other types of washers at any auto parts store.
>
> Now back to sincerity: After doing the one-over plug I figgered I
> stay with the alum crush as the dealer does. No difference using
> nylon or similar so long as it has a crush/formable factor to it and
> won't melt/deform under heat...as compared to stiff generic steel
> washer??


You can use just about any kind of washer you want. The dealer's is the
/correct/ one, but if your drain plug doesn't hold too well, it may not be
the best choice for you anymore.

I did some experimentation years ago, and found that gaskets made of nylon
or other gasketing materials held just fine with 20# of torque on the bolt.

> I've never tested any other options but do remember nylon
> washers on a few cars over time. Maybe the best option considering my
> situation. And cheapest.
>
> And, yes, actually...despite the sarcasm...thanks Tigger! Much
> obliged yet again :-)
>


I try.


--
Tegger


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 2 2011 7:53 am
From: Al


pssst: Hey there Christopher Robin, he might appreciate it if you
called him Tegger (as derived from "Integra") instead of Tigger (as
found in Winnie-the-Pooh)


On 2/2/2011 4:16 AM, Meatman wrote:
>>> Don't waste a lot of time on this, please...
> Nice one, Lenny Bruce. I meant don't waste too much time trying to
> find the answer/research. If you know...then you know. That would be
> sufficient info.
>
>> There is just one filter that fits most models (15400-PLM-A02)...
> My point exactly. "I need an Accord filter"."I need a CRX filter".
> 9.7/10 times (oh, and they know me) if they threw a filter at you/me,
> it would fit. Period. Pretty universal in the filter department by a
> friggin long shot.
>
>> there are a "couple" of other sizes in use...
> yep. I noted one of the two you mentioned. A "couple'" is two.
> S2000 is one. What's the other one, honestly? Curious now.
> Ridgeline?
>
>>> You can get nylon and other types of washers at any auto parts store.
> Now back to sincerity: After doing the one-over plug I figgered I
> stay with the alum crush as the dealer does. No difference using
> nylon or similar so long as it has a crush/formable factor to it and
> won't melt/deform under heat...as compared to stiff generic steel
> washer?? I've never tested any other options but do remember nylon
> washers on a few cars over time. Maybe the best option considering my
> situation. And cheapest.
>
> And, yes, actually...despite the sarcasm...thanks Tigger! Much
> obliged yet again :-)
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
>

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 2 2011 10:31 am
From: Tegger


Al <al@spamless.net> wrote in news:4d497de0$0$24223$607ed4bc@cv.net:

> pssst: Hey there Christopher Robin, he might appreciate it if you
> called him Tegger (as derived from "Integra") instead of Tigger (as
> found in Winnie-the-Pooh)

"Tegger" is in fact derived from both Integra AND Tigger. When I thought of
the name, my daughter was very small, and Tigger was her favorite Pooh
character.

I later discovered I was far from the first to use "Tegger" as a handle.


--
Tegger

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TOPIC: Anti-matter
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/685ee9c91d1ef52b?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 2 2011 7:28 pm
From: "Steven L."


"robert_c72@hotmail.com" <robert_c72@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ii51md$3sv$1@news.eternal-september.org:

> On 1/30/2011 7:27 PM, Joe Snodgrass wrote:
> > What's the best way to make anti-matter for your rocket engine? An
> > accelerator. That's why Clarke's spaceship was so long in the 2001
> > movie.
>
> All this time I thought it has fission powered engines (and general
> electrical power generation as well) and the long boom was supposed to
> reduce the crew's radiation exposure.

Not quite true either.

In Clarke's original conception (as expressed in his novelization), the
spaceship Discovery had giant radiating fins attached along the long
boom, to dissipate the enormous heat from the fission engines.

But Kubrick decided that this would make the ship look like some giant
insect, and so the wings came off, leaving just the long boom.


-- Steven L.


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