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* GM prices Volt at $41,000, will tout EV as a 'real car' <a real expensive
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TOPIC: GM prices Volt at $41,000, will tout EV as a 'real car' <a real
expensive car!>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos/t/f0d4ff8dfe2c766f?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 27 2010 3:40 pm
From: Vic Smith
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:56:05 -0400, "C. E. White"
<cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>"hls" <hls@nospam.nix> wrote in message
>news:FuSdneGcnas_pdLRnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@giganews.com...
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>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> Options
>>> Parking Assist, front and rear, Ultrasonic. Included with Rear Camera and
>>> Park Assist Package Door trim, premium with layered graphics
>>> Wheels, 17-inch, five- (5) spoke forged polished aluminum
>>>
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>> Does it come with a kickstand, CE?
>
>I was hoping for $41,000 it would fly.
>
>The lease is more affordable - $350 a month. Seems like GM is over valuing
>the residual in order to come up with an affordable lease. I can't imagine
>they will sell many at $41,000 especially after the tax credit is off (I
>think it goes away after the first 60,000 credits are granted). For that
>kind of money I'd much rather have the Lincoln MKZ Hybrid (only $37K and
>eligible for the same tax credit).
>
>Ed
>
Too rich for my blood, but there will a rush to buy/lease them, as
there was with the EV1 leasing at $300 to +$500..
And that was 2-seater and you needed a charging station installed.
The Volt looks to be better, but if they don't get the price down
pretty quick it will fail.
And of course it has to perform as expected and not be trouble-prone.
It'll be interesting to watch how it all turns out.
Depending on your daily miles driven and your electric rates, it could
be a nice solution for some - with the money.
But that steep price must come down to make it less a "boutique" car.
Probably a Caddy brand is more appropriate than the bowtie at that
price.
I see the drag coefficient is .28 and I'd like to see one in person to
see how it looks. Photos look ok.
The EV1 was .19-21 but I never saw one.
Aerodynamic and pretty don't necessarily go hand in hand.
--Vic
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 5:08 am
From: Canuck57
On 27/07/2010 1:56 PM, C. E. White wrote:
> "hls"<hls@nospam.nix> wrote in message
> news:FuSdneGcnas_pdLRnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@giganews.com...
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>> "C. E. White"<cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> Options
>>> Parking Assist, front and rear, Ultrasonic. Included with Rear Camera and
>>> Park Assist Package Door trim, premium with layered graphics
>>> Wheels, 17-inch, five- (5) spoke forged polished aluminum
>>>
>>
>> Does it come with a kickstand, CE?
>
> I was hoping for $41,000 it would fly.
>
> The lease is more affordable - $350 a month. Seems like GM is over valuing
> the residual in order to come up with an affordable lease. I can't imagine
> they will sell many at $41,000 especially after the tax credit is off (I
> think it goes away after the first 60,000 credits are granted). For that
> kind of money I'd much rather have the Lincoln MKZ Hybrid (only $37K and
> eligible for the same tax credit).
>
> Ed
Think, if I bought a F150 with a good A/C and winter heat for $31,000,
the $10,000 savings I get 80,000 miles of fuel and no wild electric
bill. Better resale too. Highway range is 450 to 550 miles depending
on the tank size.
--
Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common
sense?
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 8:07 am
From: "Mike"
Perhaps you are thinking of the subcompact Leaf, not the mid-size Volt?
"hls" <hls@nospam.nix> wrote in message
news:FuSdneGcnas_pdLRnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@giganews.com...
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> "C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>
>> Options
>> Parking Assist, front and rear, Ultrasonic. Included with Rear Camera and
>> Park Assist Package Door trim, premium with layered graphics
>> Wheels, 17-inch, five- (5) spoke forged polished aluminum
>>
>
> Does it come with a kickstand, CE?
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 11:24 am
From: "C. E. White"
"Mike" <mikehunt2@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:U9adnQC2peBW2s3RnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@ptd.net...
> Perhaps you are thinking of the subcompact Leaf, not the mid-size Volt?
From what I have seen, the Volt is a tuna can with limited luggage room.
Chevrolet doesn't claim it is "mid-sized." Chevrolet says it belongs in the
EPA compact vehicle class.
Here are Chevrolet's offical specs:
Interior Dimensions
Seating capacity (front / rear):2 / 2
Headroom (in / mm):front: 37.3 / 947
rear: 35.9 / 912
Legroom (in / mm):31.5 / 802
Shoulder room (in / mm):50.6 / 1285
Hip room (in / mm):53.1 / 1349
I can't find exact specs on the Leaf except it is also referred to as a
compact and several refernces say it will have similar room to the Versa
which has considerably more interior room than the Volt.
Here are the specs for a Ford Fusion Hybrid for comaprison:
Interior Dimensions
Seating capacity (front / rear):2 / 3
Headroom (in / mm):front: 38.7 / 983
rear: 37.8 / 960
Legroom (in / mm):42.3 / 1074
Shoulder room (in / mm):57.4 / 1458
Hip room (in / mm):54.0/ 1372
Ed
> "hls" <hls@nospam.nix> wrote in message
> news:FuSdneGcnas_pdLRnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> Options
>>> Parking Assist, front and rear, Ultrasonic. Included with Rear Camera
>>> and Park Assist Package Door trim, premium with layered graphics
>>> Wheels, 17-inch, five- (5) spoke forged polished aluminum
>>>
>>
>> Does it come with a kickstand, CE?
>
>
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