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* Oil Change Frequency - 5 messages, 3 authors
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TOPIC: Oil Change Frequency
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/39606e57462d20b2?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 22 2010 8:41 am
From: jim beam


On 07/22/2010 03:52 AM, Mel P. wrote:
> Up until I got my 2009 Civic, I would change oil in my cars every 3K miles.
> Now with the car's 'maintenance minder", it shows the oil life left
> which is 5-7K miles.
>
> If I REALLY can go by it, I have no problems.
>
> Just asking if it will wear the engine out quicker.
>
> thanks,
>

are you using crappy oil from the 1950's with poor additives and poor
base quality? 'cos if so, stick to the 3k mile regime.

otherwise, honda have gone to a lot of trouble to eliminate guesswork,
superstition and witchcraft from their vehicles, so you can be confident
that the minder will keep your engine safe.

--
nomina rutrum rutrum


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 26 2010 9:30 am
From: ACAR


On Jul 22, 11:41 am, jim beam <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
snip
>
> otherwise, honda have gone to a lot of trouble to eliminate guesswork,
> superstition and witchcraft from their vehicles, so you can be confident
> that the minder will keep your engine safe.
>
> --

While I agree that modern oils can go 5K to 10K miles between oil
changes, how can you suggest that Honda's on-board maintenance minder
is the last word in maintenance when you do not know what algorithm it
uses to calculate oil change frequency?

Experience is not "guesswork, superstition and witchcraft."


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 26 2010 9:44 am
From: jim beam


On 07/26/2010 09:30 AM, ACAR wrote:
> On Jul 22, 11:41�am, jim beam<m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> snip
>>
>> otherwise, honda have gone to a lot of trouble to eliminate guesswork,
>> superstition and witchcraft from their vehicles, so you can be confident
>> that the minder will keep your engine safe.
>>
>> --
>
> While I agree that modern oils can go 5K to 10K miles between oil
> changes, how can you suggest that Honda's on-board maintenance minder
> is the last word in maintenance when you do not know what algorithm it
> uses to calculate oil change frequency?

unless you have numbers, it effectively is the last word. numbers come
from analysis.


>
> Experience is not "guesswork, superstition and witchcraft."

"experience" from analysis?


--
nomina rutrum rutrum


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 26 2010 12:34 pm
From: Vincent Parry


On 7/26/10 12:30 PM, ACAR wrote:
> On Jul 22, 11:41 am, jim beam<m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> snip
>>
>> otherwise, honda have gone to a lot of trouble to eliminate guesswork,
>> superstition and witchcraft from their vehicles, so you can be confident
>> that the minder will keep your engine safe.
>>
>> --
>
> While I agree that modern oils can go 5K to 10K miles between oil
> changes, how can you suggest that Honda's on-board maintenance minder
> is the last word in maintenance when you do not know what algorithm it
> uses to calculate oil change frequency?
>
>

Wouldja' think, just maybe, that the second largest car company-- with a
sterling reputaion for quality and reliability-- would somehow manage to
plug in the right numbers when programming the Mileage minder?

So woudja', huh?


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 26 2010 12:35 pm
From: Vincent Parry


On 7/26/10 3:34 PM, Vincent Parry wrote:
> On 7/26/10 12:30 PM, ACAR wrote:
>> On Jul 22, 11:41 am, jim beam<m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> snip
>>>
>>> otherwise, honda have gone to a lot of trouble to eliminate guesswork,
>>> superstition and witchcraft from their vehicles, so you can be confident
>>> that the minder will keep your engine safe.
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> While I agree that modern oils can go 5K to 10K miles between oil
>> changes, how can you suggest that Honda's on-board maintenance minder
>> is the last word in maintenance when you do not know what algorithm it
>> uses to calculate oil change frequency?
>>
>>
>
> Wouldja' think, just maybe, that the second largest car company-- with a
> sterling reputaion for quality and reliability-- would somehow manage to
> plug in the right numbers when programming the Mileage minder?
>
> So woudja', huh?

..make that *Japanese* car company...

-----VP


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