Sorry for the belated reply. Man, we did thanksgiving like two days in a row with two sides of the family. I feel this morning that many family members are secretly looking at ME to be the next menu item in the coming weeks or something. I feel like I have been fattened for the kill so to speak.
I saw what you said about following drivers. For me, it has been JR for a good while. I blew him off in the Busch series, as I figured it was pretty much an uneven thing. Driving dad's number 3 Busch car was neat and all.. but it was also very well funded. Tony Sr appeared to be, and still does when one looks at his work with Brad Keslowski, a master crew chief. I feel Jr would have been closer to a championship with him on the box, instead of Tony Jr. When Rick signed Jr, I just knew that he'd had used his masterful powers of persuasion to get him, and I kinda bought into Jr moving forward, and I believe that Dale did too. It seems to me, and the rest of the 'not haters of Jeff and Jimmie, but not fans" group that Rick made a business move, little else. You made a good point when speaking of Jr bringing in mo money mo money.. after all, Jr's first 88 die cast became the biggest selling in history, just by orders alone. The sea of black that started to
bleed Budweiser red, was impossible to ignore. On the racing side, the wonder twins evidently still get the good stuff, and Jr is being treated like a junior, to me. Kyle? Well, my biggest complaint with the young man is that he has no real soul. Talent? Yeah, he's got it, but, he's got no real appreciation, he's got no real cause outside of himself, and in the end, when he began to believe his own diatribe, he self imploded, again. He's like a dumber version of Ernie Irvan from 1994-95, until he hit the wall in Michigan, HARD. It damned near killed him, and he changed. It saddened me to see that it took that to bring him around to how delicate the balance really is. Kyle on the other hand is a good driver, but he's blatantly dirty, and if he's bumped, or not allowed to just simply pass someone, then he's a complete tool about it.. like Jimmie Johnson can be even still. That crap that Kyle pulled on Mark Martin at Daytona sealed it for me. He was
willing to run Mark Martin up the track and almost in the wall to keep his position, yet almost got some people hurt in Michigan for the Nationwide race, when Vickers raced him for position, and it pissed him off. Keslowski made a clean pass on them, and that pissed Kyle off, so he hits the guy in the pits. Kyle made a comment once, regarding Alan Gufstason, he said, "He doesn't give me what I really need to be competitive.
I cannot be a fan of Kyle over sentiment. I was a fan of Jr before his father died. Jr's willingness to NOT drive a car with the number 3 on it, made me even more of a fan.
Then again, I loved Dick Trickle, Sterling Marlin, and an entire host of drivers that I rooted for, Allison(s), Pearson, Bonnet, Yaroborough, and the like, that drove because it was a passion for them. The 1979 Daytona 500, and that brand of racing will never be seen again with Nascar in its current state, with its current car. I would love to see this thing get nuclear every once in a while, and with Keslowski and Hamlin being such rivals at this point, it would be great to see some self policing, knuckled out, middled fingered, A-post to A-post racing once again.
ramble ramble ramble... sorry.. LOL
____________
From: Tim P <tbone68134@yahoo.
To: NASCAR-Group@
Sent: Sat, November 28, 2009 3:37:49 PM
Subject: Re: [NASCAR-Group] Some Mayfield news...
Take you in a negitive way I think NOT. Most times I do agree with you. I have found that with the right words we can get the view points going to the max which makes this group fun.
You know that I am a Kyle fan and not a Jr fan but I do follow him. I think it was asked, not too long ago, how one decides on there favorite driver. At the time I did not have an answer until your ( From a Jr fan to a Kyle fan.. ). I am a fan of severals drivers or cars. # 2 car, not so much for the driver but the car number. Why you may ask? I was the Crew Chief on the # 2 Thunderbird in 1993. Mark Martin when he drove the Valvoline Ford he almost lost me with the Viagra Ford. The latest and greatest I will now cheer on will be Brad Kaslowski no matter how he does. For the life of me I can't say why I really Like him. Maybe after all these years of watching NASCAR this rookie has sparked something for me. As for Kyle It's because of Jr. It started when Hendrick annouced Jr was comming to Hendrick Motor Sport and that Kyle was out. I felt then and still do today that Rick's House of Cheats has bought the best team money can buy. ( Just
like the Yankees ) With the terrible year Jr has had, Jr still has brought in more money to Rick then any other driver.
To coin a phrase " man..this is fun... "
Tim 68134
--- On Sat, 11/28/09, Michael Rush <poltergeist8@ sbcglobal. net> wrote:
From: Michael Rush <poltergeist8@ sbcglobal. net>
Subject: Re: [NASCAR-Group] Some Mayfield news...
To: NASCAR-Group@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 1:51 PM
Welp, when it comes to keep one's media credentials with Nascar, they know better than to ask the drivers anything concerning 'taboo' topics with Nascar. Tim, we are talking about the same Nascar that got a man fired from the Speedchannel for reporting on a story that was already on Nascar.com, and it was a vendetta. Your question about screwing over Mayfield, one could also ask the same as to why they did the same to Tim Richmond. I realize that Tim Richmond died from AIDS, and the whole thing was swept under as far as Bill France Jr and the 'tainted' drug test they ordered him to do. But what gain did Nascar have in going after one of theeee most popular drivers at that time? They found out the hard way that you don't go after that guy.. you go after a Mayfield, or a Carl Long, or a Robby Gordon.
With regards further to Mayfield's negative tests, just like when Nascar security stormed in to his home, and forced him to take a RANDOM drug test in front of them, why not take that sample and back up Aegis with another 'positive' from another, accredited lab, instead of relying on the same people that gave him his first positive to own up and say, 'uh, this one's negative'.. come on man, like that'd happen. Four of Mayfield's negative results were unscheduled tests that his then lawyer Diehl had ordered Jeremy to. They already turned in the time lines on cell phones, and time stamps on the other labs' negative results. Also, you can do a diminished hair follicle test to determine when a drug was done, and how long ago by how much of a presence of the drug is still lodged in the follicle itself. Just like by asking what Nascar would have to gain by such activity, do we not agree that they also put the screws to a driver that is very much liked by the
Nascar community in Carl Long and his .017 inches of extra motor? They threw this guy under the bus and ran it back and forth several times, over something that is naturally occurring in an engine that has been through repeated heat cycles. They take on the ones that can't financially fight back, to let Hendrick and the other top owners and drivers know that they could do that to them too.. Imagine if they had wrote up Jimmie Johnson for .017 inches of too much motor there, docked him a 100 owner/driver points. How long could Rick Hendrick sustain a lawsuit? As long as Nascar can, because he is defininely one of the richest of the brood. Imagine still further that this were Dale Jr, Kyle Bush or Jeff Gordon they tried to lay a drug use thing on. Wait a minute, that would actually HURT nascar in the long run, instead of looking all self policing. So, they do this by attacking the runts of the litter, instead of the fat ones closest to momma. Keeps things
like Congressional probes away..(see MLB/Roger Clements/Barry Bonds).. if you need something to color how attacking someone like Mayfield benefits them.
Sadder still is both sides being caught in major lies. Do I think Jeremy did meth? I dunno. Do I think he's a prick? Oh hell yeah.. him and Robby Gordon both. Do I think it fair that Nascar has long lumbered around like some role hungry cop, beating the jaywalkers within an inch of their life, while letting the ones with the power to fight back take a slap on the wrist? (rhetorical. ..LOL) More over, why will Nascar NOT supply anyone with a list of banned substances? Well, it would keep them from using that punch of "actions detremental to Nascar", for starters. Lastly, back to the media talking to the drivers. Dude, tell me which driver out there is ready to have Nascar inspectors climb up the tailpipes of those cars with a microscope, and send them back through the tech line about ten times in a week end? 900 bucks a pop, and believe me, if you want to hear someone talk about how that's happened, then all one need do is ask Robby. When he was taken
down
by the 'unapproved nose' thing in early 2007, he spent almost every practice after that, just trying to get his damned car out of tech...
man..this is fun...
and I pray you aren't taking me in any negative way at all. You are a friend of mine.. so please, know that we can always agree to disagree should it come to that, and it wouldn't change my view of you one bit. From a Jr fan to a Kyle fan..
moi
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
No comments:
Post a Comment