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* Global Warming and what you can do to against it - 2 messages, 2 authors
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TOPIC: Global Warming and what you can do to against it
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.honda/t/e08ef20f46dc6be6?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 27 2009 9:42 am
From: ".."


Dear All,
As you know global warming is endangering the future of life on the
planet. It will also affect us;
rising sea levels, dwindling water supplies, mass deaths due to heat
waves, stoppage of the gulfstream, which
brings milder climate to north of Europe, super hurricanes, less food
due to droughts are some of the effects.
As you also know global warming is produced due to CO2 emissions
coming from burning of fossil fuels. So what
can every single person do to reduce global warming ?


1) Insulation: Do you know that you can save 50% of heating energy
(and money) by insulation ? Especially in
the times the financial crisis, you can make the insulation cheaper
and save the money when oil, natural gas and
coal prices are higher due to higher demand. What needs to be
insulated ? Firstly the Roof, since warmer air
goes up, then the windows (tripple glass or at least dual glass and
shutters for additional insulation at night,
and in summer time), then the outer walls. Also small cracks, leaks in
weatherstrips etc should be eliminated.
An infrared inspection of your house for heat losses would be the best
way to find out what else can be done.
A wintergarden will help heating your house additionally in winter
time.

2) Using rechargable batteries instead of alkaline batteries, and
charge them during less demand ours like at night
will also save a lot of energy and money.

3) Lightning; the use of Compact fluorescent lamps instead of
traditioanl light bulbs will save 80% of energy, the
use of very new LED lamps will save even more.

4) Buying local. Most of the energy is spent for transportation of
imported goods, especially food. By buying local
made food you not only save a lot of energy, but also create more jobs
at home.

5) Heating; there are several way to save energy and money by changing
the heating method; you can use the free heat of the nature by adding
a solar thermal equipment to heat the water for taking showers and
also to heat your home. Additionally you can use a heating pump, which
funtions like a reverse fridge; it takes the heat of the outside and
transfers it to your home. You use much much less energy to do this
(electricity to pump a liquid).

6) Your car; by buying a hybrid car you save 30% of fuel, by
converting your car to CNG (compressed natural gas) you can save a lot
of CO2, since CNG has much less carbon but more hydrogen, which will
result in water (CH4 instead of C8H18). CNG will also result in much
more energy output per mass. The conversion is not very expensive. It
is totally save, since the storage has to resist a certain pressure.
Of course there are also other smaller things you have to consider:
- Each 60 pounds increases fuel consumption by 10%.
- Aggressive driving (speeding, rapid acceleration, and hard braking)
wastes gas. It can lower your highway gas
mileage 33% and city mileage 5%.
- Drive at lowest and constant rpms; 2000 rpm are enough; you can save
up to 30%. Even a Porsche can be driven
at the 4th gear at 20 mph and at the 6th gear at 50 mph with 2.5
times less fuel consumption.
- Avoid high speeds. Driving 75 mph, rather than 65 mph, could cut
your fuel economy by 15%.
- Use air conditioning only when necessary
- Keep tires properly inflated and aligned to improve your gasoline
mileage by around 3.3%.
- Replace clogged air filters to improve gas mileage by as much as 10%
and protect your engine
- Combine errands into one trip. Several short trips, each one taken
from a cold start, can use twice as much fuel
as one trip covering the same distance when the engine is warm. Do
not forget that in the first mile your car uses
8 times more fuel, in the second mile 4 times and only after the
fourth mile it becomes normal

7) Buying A++ or A+++ equipments. The extra money you pay for this
will be back in 1-2 years. It will save a lot of
CO2.

8) Try to save also energy at your job; you can do it by insulation,
more efficient processes, heat recovery, more
efficient pumps/engines, low temperature processses, material
saving, water savings, optimization, automatic
turning off of unnecessary energy using processes, control if some
processes are really necessary (the change
of some processes makes other processes sometimes unnecesarry on
which nobody has thought about).

9) Solar cells for your own home; at the moment solar cells are very
cheap since there is an overproduction.
These cells can operate a fridge for example.

Regards.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 28 2009 7:55 am
From: Tom Edison


In article
<0adbb0c8-eed0-4061-aab4-b1721c5882f6@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
".." <sustainable.future116@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear All,
> As you know global warming is endangering the future of life on the
> planet. It will also affect us;
> rising sea levels, dwindling water supplies, mass deaths due to heat
> waves, stoppage of the gulfstream, which
> brings milder climate to north of Europe, super hurricanes, less food
> due to droughts are some of the effects.
> As you also know global warming is produced due to CO2 emissions
> coming from burning of fossil fuels. So what
> can every single person do to reduce global warming ?

There is no "global warming". It is an invention of left-wing wackos.
Even those wackos are changing the name to "climate change" instead of
"global warming" because most of their meetings have been held during
blizzards and snow storms.
>
> 1) Insulation: Do you know that you can save 50% of heating energy
> (and money) by insulation ? Especially in
> the times the financial crisis, you can make the insulation cheaper
> and save the money when oil, natural gas and
> coal prices are higher due to higher demand. What needs to be
> insulated ? Firstly the Roof, since warmer air
> goes up, then the windows (tripple glass or at least dual glass and
> shutters for additional insulation at night,
> and in summer time), then the outer walls. Also small cracks, leaks in
> weatherstrips etc should be eliminated.
> An infrared inspection of your house for heat losses would be the best
> way to find out what else can be done.
> A wintergarden will help heating your house additionally in winter
> time.

This a a very broad and inaccurate statement. Not many people would
save 50% of their energy costs unless they live in a cardboard box. It
would actually take several years to amortize the cost of insulation
with the savings from your energy bill.
>
> 2) Using rechargable batteries instead of alkaline batteries, and
> charge them during less demand ours like at night
> will also save a lot of energy and money.
>
> 3) Lightning; the use of Compact fluorescent lamps instead of
> traditioanl light bulbs will save 80% of energy, the
> use of very new LED lamps will save even more.

Fluorescent lights contain mercury which will poison the environment and
the people using them once they are in widespread home use. The quality
of the light from these devices is also bad for the eyes and, overtime,
will produce an increase in vision problems for those who use them.
>
> 4) Buying local. Most of the energy is spent for transportation of
> imported goods, especially food. By buying local
> made food you not only save a lot of energy, but also create more jobs
> at home.
Very few areas in the world can actually grow food in the quantity
necessary to feed the local population which is why food is brought into
most areas from other locations. This is further complicated by
socialist governments that shut down major farming areas to "protect
endangered species" as they have done in California's central valley.
No food grows in downtown Los Angeles or New York City, two of the more
populous areas in the U.S.
>
> 5) Heating; there are several way to save energy and money by changing
> the heating method; you can use the free heat of the nature by adding
> a solar thermal equipment to heat the water for taking showers and
> also to heat your home. Additionally you can use a heating pump, which
> funtions like a reverse fridge; it takes the heat of the outside and
> transfers it to your home. You use much much less energy to do this
> (electricity to pump a liquid).
Solar heat only works within a narrow range of lattitudes. A heat pump
requires more energy to operate than it produces. Natural gas is
probably the most economical source for heat.
>
> 6) Your car; by buying a hybrid car you save 30% of fuel, by
> converting your car to CNG (compressed natural gas) you can save a lot
> of CO2, since CNG has much less carbon but more hydrogen, which will
> result in water (CH4 instead of C8H18). CNG will also result in much
> more energy output per mass. The conversion is not very expensive. It
> is totally save, since the storage has to resist a certain pressure.
> Of course there are also other smaller things you have to consider:
> - Each 60 pounds increases fuel consumption by 10%.
> - Aggressive driving (speeding, rapid acceleration, and hard braking)
> wastes gas. It can lower your highway gas
> mileage 33% and city mileage 5%.
> - Drive at lowest and constant rpms; 2000 rpm are enough; you can save
> up to 30%. Even a Porsche can be driven
> at the 4th gear at 20 mph and at the 6th gear at 50 mph with 2.5
> times less fuel consumption.
> - Avoid high speeds. Driving 75 mph, rather than 65 mph, could cut
> your fuel economy by 15%.
> - Use air conditioning only when necessary
> - Keep tires properly inflated and aligned to improve your gasoline
> mileage by around 3.3%.
> - Replace clogged air filters to improve gas mileage by as much as 10%
> and protect your engine
> - Combine errands into one trip. Several short trips, each one taken
> from a cold start, can use twice as much fuel
> as one trip covering the same distance when the engine is warm. Do
> not forget that in the first mile your car uses
> 8 times more fuel, in the second mile 4 times and only after the
> fourth mile it becomes normal
It costs more to buy a hybrid car and that cost must be amortized. The
batteries for the car are very expensive and must be replaced after
several years
>
> 7) Buying A++ or A+++ equipments. The extra money you pay for this
> will be back in 1-2 years. It will save a lot of
> CO2.

Where is the proof for this generalization??
>
> 8) Try to save also energy at your job; you can do it by insulation,
> more efficient processes, heat recovery, more
> efficient pumps/engines, low temperature processses, material
> saving, water savings, optimization, automatic
> turning off of unnecessary energy using processes, control if some
> processes are really necessary (the change
> of some processes makes other processes sometimes unnecesarry on
> which nobody has thought about).
>
> 9) Solar cells for your own home; at the moment solar cells are very
> cheap since there is an overproduction.

Wrong! Solar cells are still very expensive for home use.
> These cells can operate a fridge for example.

Do you have this in your home or do you just want everyone else to do it?
>
> Regards.

You are clearly misinformed and someone who does not practice what you
preach. PLease stay off of your mother's computer in the future and
learn how to use a spell checker.


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