Friday, April 30, 2010

rec.autos.makers.honda - 3 new messages in 2 topics - digest

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* 2003 Honda Accord SRS indicator light - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/c6457995b5aff4ee?hl=en
* Honda "Clumsy" When Flirting With Foreigners, Wants To Get More Open - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/e827b61dea69c344?hl=en

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TOPIC: 2003 Honda Accord SRS indicator light
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/c6457995b5aff4ee?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 7:19 pm
From: Tegger


Elle <honda.lioness@gmail.com> wrote in news:1576a559-c369-42b7-bc4e-
1932e0619059@z13g2000prh.googlegroups.com:

>
> My 2003 Civic had the SRS light on. I read the code myself. It turned
> out to be the seat belt tensioner. Most, but it seems not all, dealers
> cover this in the U.S. under the lifetime seat belt warranty on all
> Hondas. (Apparently some dealers argue the part does not involve seat
> belt integrity, and so it is not warrant-able. Yet other dealers say
> the whole belt buckle must be replaced to correct the failed airbag
> switch problem, so it is warrantable.)

That's not a dealer warranty, it's an American Honda warranty. It's called
the "Lifetime Seat Belt Limited Warranty". The dealer is NOT the one that
decides if the repair is warrantable.

The warranty applies if these three conditions are met:
1) the vehicle was originally sold to an American dealer by American Honda;
2) the actual functioning of the belt assembly is impaired;
3) the vehicle has not been involved in a collision.

"Integrity" is not part of the warranty criteria.

If the belt refuses to retract; refuses to lock; is frayed to the point
where it will not move in and out of its retractor; if motorized belts
won't run back-and-forth and/or lock in the rearmost position; if there is
any other impediment to actual function, then the warranty applies.

If the seat belt functions as-designed, but the SRS light is illuminated
with a seat belt code, then the warranty does not apply.

If the seat belt functions as-designed, but the belt warning-lamp is on
even when the belt is buckled, then the warranty does not apply.

If the belt is stained or the plastic is cracked, but the belt still
functions as-designed, then the warranty does not apply.

Honda pays the dealers for any warranty work they do to your seat belts. If
your dealer won't play ball, call American Honda customer service:
<http://automobiles.honda.com/information/customer-relations.aspx>
Whether to cover or not is NOT the dealer's decision.

--
Tegger


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 29 2010 1:28 pm
From: Elle


On Apr 28, 8:19 pm, Tegger <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:
> Elle <honda.lion...@gmail.com> wrote in news:1576a559-c369-42b7-bc4e-
> 1932e0619...@z13g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > My 2003 Civic had the SRS light on. I read the code myself. It turned
> > out to be the seat belt tensioner. Most, but it seems not all, dealers
> > cover this in the U.S. under the lifetime seat belt warranty on all
> > Hondas. (Apparently some dealers argue the part does not involve seat
> > belt integrity, and so it is not warrant-able. Yet other dealers say
> > the whole belt buckle must be replaced to correct the failed airbag
> > switch problem, so it is warrantable.)
>
> That's not a dealer warranty,


I am repeating what many people have posted at honda-tech.com: That
their dealer in the U.S. refused to cover the repair. Also, my seat
belt did everything you listed when I the belt tensioner yada SRS code
came up. Yet my dealer read this very code and declared it was fully
warrantied. I am relating hard facts here. Also, every dealer has, on
some repairs, some room to argue, with the manufacturer, for whether a
repair should be warrantied. It is not always as black and white as
you seem to suggest.

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TOPIC: Honda "Clumsy" When Flirting With Foreigners, Wants To Get More Open
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/e827b61dea69c344?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 29 2010 11:09 pm
From: sjmmail2000-247@yahoo.co.uk


With all the tie-ups going on between Japanese and mostly European car makers, conventional wisdom had it that Honda would not take part in the nampa with the gaijin. Everybody saw them stay pure and Nipponese. Not so, said Executive Vice President Koichi Kondo yesterday to The Nikkei [sub]. They would very much like a [...]
Read More: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/honda-%e2%80%9cclumsy%e2%80%9d-when-flirting-with-foreigners-wants-to-get-more-open/

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