Thursday, September 9, 2010

alt.autos.nissan - 3 new messages in 2 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* My Experience Driving a Chevrolet Traverse - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.nissan/t/e05f241ae66f2cc9?hl=en
* Almost lost a socket - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.nissan/t/d5bed8c3a936b40d?hl=en

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TOPIC: My Experience Driving a Chevrolet Traverse
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.nissan/t/e05f241ae66f2cc9?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 7 2010 10:55 pm
From: "Sharx35"


"Hachiroku ハチロク" <anonymous@not-for-mail.invalid> wrote in message
news:i66v4q$a9i$4@tioat.net...
> On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 09:34:01 -0400, C. E. White wrote:
>
>>
>> Recently we took a vacation to Yellowstone Park, Glacier Park, and other
>> points of interest in Montana and Wyoming. We flew to Montana and rented
>> a
>> car. I asked for a Nissan Xterra, but Hertz rented me a Chevrolet
>> Traverse
>
> Ed's got guts. He *admitted* driving a Chevy!
>
>

What the Hell, at least it was only for a week or so. Can you imagine
actually BUYING one of those tin boxes and being stuck, for its
life..probably all of 5 years, with it?


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TOPIC: Almost lost a socket
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.nissan/t/d5bed8c3a936b40d?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 8 2010 6:24 am
From: "E. Meyer"


On 9/7/10 9:04 AM, in article
Xns9DEC66AC7396Ejyaniklocalnetcom@216.168.3.44, "Jim Yanik"
<jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:

> "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in
> news:C8AAF2ED.1FF96%epmeyer50@msn.com:
>
>> On 9/5/10 4:36 PM, in article
>> Xns9DEAB32E24307jyaniklocalnetcom@216.168.3.44, "Jim Yanik"
>> <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
>>
>>> "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in
>>> news:C8A91B7E.1FEBA%epmeyer50@msn.com:
>>>
>>>> On 9/3/10 8:27 AM, in article
>>>> Xns9DE86055A560Ajyaniklocalnetcom@216.168.3.44, "Jim Yanik"
>>>> <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:C8A64D15.1FD2B%epmeyer50@msn.com:
>>>
>>>>>> There are about 3 people left on earth that even use usenet
>>>>>> anymore and I have to think that these anal retentive top
>>>>>> posting/bottom posting tirades are a large part of the reason why.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> the main reason many have "deserted" Usenet is because few ISPs
>>>>> provide the service anymore.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, but that's a chicken and egg argument. Most of the ISPs are
>>>> dropping it because the usage isn't there anymore.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> second might be bacause of the difficulty in following a thread
>>>>> when coming in after a few MFFY top posters have screwed up the
>>>>> continuity and readability of the thread. "anal-retentive",I think
>>>>> not.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just keep on thinking that. I, and I suspect many others, roll our
>>>> eyes and immediately ignore the thread as soon it degenerates into
>>>> complaints about how its posted.
>>>
>>> I fail to see how it's "anal-retentive" to read from top to
>>> bottom,the NATURAL manner of reading. It's MFFY to top-post.It's
>>> egotistical people who selfishly want to read their comments
>>> first,too lazy to scroll down to the end.
>>>>
>>
>> I revert to my original assertion - this anal retentive BS is becoming
>> the death of usenet. I have no use for anybody, business or pleasure,
>> who focuses on the jots and commas to the exclusion of the message,
>> which is part and partial what this amounts to.
>
> Hardly comparable to commenting on "jots and commas" or typos,which I don't
> do.
>>
>>>>> Here's an example for ya;go to Townhall.com,pick an article with 50
>>>>> or more posts and replies,and don't select the "oldest first"
>>>>> option. They automatically post everything "newest first";why,I
>>>>> can't figure. Now,try to read the posts and make sense of it in
>>>>> "newest first" order.
>>>>
>>>> If you are actually following the thread this argument is moot. If
>>>> there is a problem at all, it is only for someone trying to catch up
>>>> with a thread (s)he has not been following.
>>>
>>> Oh,so that makes it all right?
>>> It IS a "problem". the longer the thread,the more difficult it gets
>>> for anyone to follow,and top posting makes it FAR worse,and sooner.
>>>
>>> AND,I suspect you didn't try my suggestion about trying one of
>>> Townhall's fora.
>>> It's a perfect example of top-posting screw-up. I dare you to TRY
>>> it,then you will understand. Or maybe not.....but then there's no
>>> hope for you. For one thing,you might only be able to come across the
>>> article -after- there's been 100 posts and replies,and trying to read
>>> "newest first" is impossible.Some of the articles originate at
>>> midnight,and by 7AM,there's a slew of posts. That's the same as on
>>> the newsgroups.
>>
>> I have been following these groups for about 15 years, and I have yet
>> to find a discussion I couldn't follow if I wanted to. Its just lame
>> to assert that oldest fist is ideal but newest first is impossible to
>> read. Get real. Scroll down to where you left off and then back up.
>> Geez!
>
>
> you STILL didn't try Townhall as I suggested.....so you have no idea what
> you're talking about.

BS

>
> Evidently,there IS no hope for you.

PLONK!

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 8 2010 7:57 am
From: Jim Yanik


"E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in
news:C8ACF8D9.200AC%epmeyer50@msn.com:

> On 9/7/10 9:04 AM, in article
> Xns9DEC66AC7396Ejyaniklocalnetcom@216.168.3.44, "Jim Yanik"
><jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
>
>> "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in
>> news:C8AAF2ED.1FF96%epmeyer50@msn.com:
>>
>>> On 9/5/10 4:36 PM, in article
>>> Xns9DEAB32E24307jyaniklocalnetcom@216.168.3.44, "Jim Yanik"
>>> <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in
>>>> news:C8A91B7E.1FEBA%epmeyer50@msn.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/3/10 8:27 AM, in article
>>>>> Xns9DE86055A560Ajyaniklocalnetcom@216.168.3.44, "Jim Yanik"
>>>>> <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:C8A64D15.1FD2B%epmeyer50@msn.com:
>>>>
>>>>>>> There are about 3 people left on earth that even use usenet
>>>>>>> anymore and I have to think that these anal retentive top
>>>>>>> posting/bottom posting tirades are a large part of the reason
>>>>>>> why.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the main reason many have "deserted" Usenet is because few ISPs
>>>>>> provide the service anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, but that's a chicken and egg argument. Most of the ISPs are
>>>>> dropping it because the usage isn't there anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> second might be bacause of the difficulty in following a thread
>>>>>> when coming in after a few MFFY top posters have screwed up the
>>>>>> continuity and readability of the thread. "anal-retentive",I
>>>>>> think not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just keep on thinking that. I, and I suspect many others, roll
>>>>> our eyes and immediately ignore the thread as soon it degenerates
>>>>> into complaints about how its posted.
>>>>
>>>> I fail to see how it's "anal-retentive" to read from top to
>>>> bottom,the NATURAL manner of reading. It's MFFY to top-post.It's
>>>> egotistical people who selfishly want to read their comments
>>>> first,too lazy to scroll down to the end.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> I revert to my original assertion - this anal retentive BS is
>>> becoming the death of usenet. I have no use for anybody, business
>>> or pleasure, who focuses on the jots and commas to the exclusion of
>>> the message, which is part and partial what this amounts to.
>>
>> Hardly comparable to commenting on "jots and commas" or typos,which I
>> don't do.
>>>
>>>>>> Here's an example for ya;go to Townhall.com,pick an article with
>>>>>> 50 or more posts and replies,and don't select the "oldest first"
>>>>>> option. They automatically post everything "newest first";why,I
>>>>>> can't figure. Now,try to read the posts and make sense of it in
>>>>>> "newest first" order.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are actually following the thread this argument is moot.
>>>>> If there is a problem at all, it is only for someone trying to
>>>>> catch up with a thread (s)he has not been following.
>>>>
>>>> Oh,so that makes it all right?
>>>> It IS a "problem". the longer the thread,the more difficult it gets
>>>> for anyone to follow,and top posting makes it FAR worse,and sooner.
>>>>
>>>> AND,I suspect you didn't try my suggestion about trying one of
>>>> Townhall's fora.
>>>> It's a perfect example of top-posting screw-up. I dare you to TRY
>>>> it,then you will understand. Or maybe not.....but then there's no
>>>> hope for you. For one thing,you might only be able to come across
>>>> the article -after- there's been 100 posts and replies,and trying
>>>> to read "newest first" is impossible.Some of the articles originate
>>>> at midnight,and by 7AM,there's a slew of posts. That's the same as
>>>> on the newsgroups.
>>>
>>> I have been following these groups for about 15 years, and I have
>>> yet to find a discussion I couldn't follow if I wanted to. Its just
>>> lame to assert that oldest fist is ideal but newest first is
>>> impossible to read. Get real. Scroll down to where you left off and
>>> then back up. Geez!
>>
>>
>> you STILL didn't try Townhall as I suggested.....so you have no idea
>> what you're talking about.
>
> BS
>
>>
>> Evidently,there IS no hope for you.
>
> PLONK!
>
>

you STILL didn't try Townhall...; willful blindness.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com


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