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* Lazy owners who don't read their owner's manuals get what they deserve - 1
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* Advice on replacing 94-97 Accord muffler? Dealing with rubber hangers? - 2
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TOPIC: Lazy owners who don't read their owner's manuals get what they deserve
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 6:02 pm
From: Hachiroku ハチロク
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 07:53:30 -0500, Iowna Uass wrote:
>
> "Seth" <sethNOSPAM@NOSPAMclcpro.com> wrote in message
> news:i7304u$dpc$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
>> news:elmop-ECAF7F.09393718092010@62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi...
>>>
>>> Ray: That information is available not only online, but also in the
>>> back of your owner¹s manual (that¹s the rectangular thing wrapped in
>>> cellophane in the bottom of your glove box, Dave).
>>
>> My favorite quote.
>
> The fact that he didn¹t do that lands
> him squarely on our fecal roster.
>
> I like that one... heh heh... fecal roster....
I'm gald you said it again...I thought you said "roaster". Eww...
--
You keep your K00L-Aid.
I'll have TEA.
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TOPIC: Advice on replacing 94-97 Accord muffler? Dealing with rubber hangers?
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 23 2010 9:06 am
From: "Boomer"
Tegger,
The information about stainless steel parts in Toyota is very interesting.
The addition of stainless steel parts will probably not increase any sales
in the showroom. I am thinking that after a few years the information will
slowly become known that Toyota parts simply last a long time. This means
that they are planning for sales years ahead.
An American automaker would never do such a thing, and clearly Honda is not
doing it. I just brought my 98 CRV into a body shop to have the rust removed
and then repainted on my rear quarter panels. It had just barely started.
This cost me 90 dollars. We have low labour rates here in the UP. Of course
the UP is another place for much snow and lots of salt.
Michael
"Tegger" <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote in message
news:Xns9CE5B827244D4tegger@208.90.168.18...
> pws <pwshelton@austin.rr.com> wrote in news:hgg5hi$um9$1@aioe.org:
>
>> Tegger wrote:
>>
>>> Ten years is an excellent lifespan, especialy for a muffler that has
>>> had the treatment yours did.
>>>
>>> My personal (and fairly extensive) experience with aftermarket has
>>> never yielded more than two years without additional problems
>>> arising. But then I had been looking for /cheaper/ alternatives to
>>> OEM. Which turned out to be very cheap indeed.
>>
>> The aftermarket, non-stainless muffler I have on now has been there
>> for 5 years and it is still in good condition. It has also been used
>> pretty hard, lots of short trips.
>
>
>
> It might have to do with your geographical location. I'm located in the
> very heart of the north-eastern Rust Belt, where the climate is horribly
> abusive of anything made of steel, especially when the moisture is
> regularly combined with road salt.
>
> If you're in an area whose climate is kinder to steels, your mufflers
> would
> last longer, period.
>
>
>
>> If it goes out really fast, lesson learned. If it makes it even 3 more
>> years, then it was a lot better value than going with a factory one,
>> in my personal experience, which is not terribly extensive, but does
>> cover 24 years and about 8 cars.
>>
>>>> I have had stainless aftermarket exhausts on 3 different cars over
>>>> the past 24 years, including my current '91 turbo Miata, that were
>>>> all better and longer-lasting than what came on the Accord. Not
>>>> equal to Honda OEM, superior.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Were they more expensive than OEM?
>>
>> I do fully see your point, Tegger.
>
>
>
> One thing I can't quite understand is why Honda does not simply change to
> semi-stainless steels. Toyota has been making their entire exhaust systems
> from that for at least 12 years now. Our '99 Tercel (yes there was such a
> beast) still has its original muffler, and it's just like new. No rust
> anywhere, even in the weld seams.
>
> But then Honda also still uses rustable steels for their brake caliper
> pistons, whereas Toyota makes those out of stainless as well.
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 23 2010 9:10 am
From: "Boomer"
>
>
>
> Whereas our roads are bathed in salt constantly from November to May.
>
> The salt corrodes the hell out of anything metallic, but does make the
> roads /considerably/ safer than they would be otherwise.
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
I am not sure that this is always true Tegger. I lived for several years in
North Dakota. They had very cold winters. The state highways were not
salted, at least where I lived next to the Canadian border. I would drive
South to Minot and have good traction with my CRV. As soon as I came into
Minot, the roads were salted and were suddenly slippery.
I was always happy to get out of Minot and onto hard frozen roads where I
had traction. This may be simply a characteristic of the cold winters in ND
Driving on icy roads when it is -20 means much better traction than when it
is +20.
Michael
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