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* Toyota Report Inconclusive - 11 messages, 6 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos/t/8c30cdc71093e47e?hl=en
* Need help finding an auto part? - 1 messages, 1 author
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* VW will buy 19.9% stake in Suzuki, aims to pass No. 1 Toyota - 2 messages, 2
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* test 123 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos/t/ce911d3c320a7723?hl=en
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TOPIC: Toyota Report Inconclusive
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos/t/8c30cdc71093e47e?hl=en
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== 1 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 8 2009 7:58 pm
From: Vic Smith
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:10:20 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net>
wrote:
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>"Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> Same garbage with the auto door locks attached to the ignition system
>> on my Lumina. Can't count the times I jerked the door handle to get
>> out of the car while the engine was running - only to find the doors
>> locked. And I'd wager that most of the glitches that lock people out
>> of their cars are due to the complexity of hooking the door locks to
>> drive train electrics.
>> I'm perfectly capable of pushing a door lock button, and deciding when
>> it should be done.
>> Nanny cars. That's what you get now. Nanny cars.
>> Crybaby nanny cars. Control freak crybaby nanny cars.
>>
>> --Vic
>
>The auto locking is not a big deal if properly designed. My Buick locks the
>doors when the car goes into gear, unlocks out of gear. That solves the
>problems you experienced.
>
That's fine unless it stops working and you find it costs hundreds to
fix it.
>My other car locked when the engine starts. Modest PITA because if I start
>the car before the passenger gets in, the doors are locked and I often
>forget to unlock them. In both cars, they can be opened to get out by just
>pulling the handle.
>
Yeah, that's another thing. It's -20 F and my wife is banging on the
window for me to let her in.
>While I generally agree that a nanny car is not needed, in these days of car
>jackings it may be handy sometime. I generally would never lock the doors
>when I drive.
>
A buzzer would work fine for me. And by the time it failed I would
already be well-trained.
--Vic
== 2 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 9 2009 6:05 am
From: PeterD
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:11:30 -0600, "hls" <hls@nospam.nix> wrote:
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>"hls" <hls@nospam.nix> wrote in message
>news:iI-dnQxcyN_Z6IPWnZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
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>Having read the manual, it turns out that the Toyota locks the steering
>wheel when
>the driver turns off the engine AND when he opens the door to exit the car
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