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* *** WARNING *** DON'T BUY A HYUNDAI ACCENT! They're Hyundai's [And America's]
Answer To The YUGO! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos/t/8b293a77529d8c2e?hl=en
* Consumer Reports: GM's Volt 'doesn't really make a lot of sense' - 14
messages, 8 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos/t/360dc4f4d62b4736?hl=en
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TOPIC: *** WARNING *** DON'T BUY A HYUNDAI ACCENT! They're Hyundai's [And
America's] Answer To The YUGO!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos/t/8b293a77529d8c2e?hl=en
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Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 10:17 am
From: James
On 2/27/2011 9:32 AM, Mooron wrote:
> On Feb 13, 6:48 pm, SalamiSam<perryneh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Sorry Hyundai lovers, but the South Koreans are NOT Japanese when it
>> comes to auto manufacturing.
>>
>> And another 'sorry' -- that I foolishly BOUGHT an Accent a few months
>> ago! As an economy car, short trips.
>>
>> $14,000 ... !
>>
>> Cash back? Forget it.
>>
>> Four-door. Tight squeeze for three-and-one-half persons.
>>
>> Corners like your wagon that you pulled when you were six!
>>
>> Noise? Over 30 mph it sounds as if there's a big hole in the floor.
>>
>> No in-dash temperature gauge -- and no explanation why from Hyundai
>> headquarters or the dealer.
>>
>> Engine warms up -- but only after 12-to-14 minutes idling.
>>
>> Gets about 26 mpg highway, 8- to 9-mpg less than advertised.
>>
>> Handling, ease, engine ambiance -- make me think this devil will start
>> to give up after 30- 35,000 miles, if that!
>>
>> DON'T SAY YOU WEREN'T WARNED!
>
> I think my Accent was around 130k before it had the first repair.
> I'm at 148k and have put about $600 into it, mostly to replace a
> gasket.
>
> All your complaints are stuff you should have noticed when you test
> drove the car
> which make me think you are a moron.
>
>
>
Still LMAO from when i read the original post. For sure it's not his
fault - it never is with some people.
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TOPIC: Consumer Reports: GM's Volt 'doesn't really make a lot of sense'
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos/t/360dc4f4d62b4736?hl=en
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== 1 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 4:47 am
From: "C. E. White"
Consumer Reports: GM's Volt 'doesn't really make a lot of sense'
David Shepardson / Detroit News Washington Bureau
Washington - Consumer Reports offered a harsh initial review of the
Chevrolet Volt, questioning whether General Motors Co.'s flagship vehicle
makes economic "sense."The extended-range plug-in electric vehicle is on the
cover of the April issue - the influential magazine's annual survey of
vehicles - but the GM vehicle comes in for criticism.
"When you are looking at purely dollars and cents, it doesn't really make a
lot of sense. The Volt isn't particularly efficient as an electric vehicle
and it's not particularly good as a gas vehicle either in terms of fuel
economy," said David Champion, the senior director of Consumer Reports auto
testing center at a meeting with reporters here. "This is going to be a
tough sell to the average consumer."
The magazine said in its testing in Connecticut during a harsh winter, its
Volt is getting 25 to 27 miles on electric power alone.
GM spokesman Greg Martin noted that it's been an extremely harsh winter -
and as a Volt driver he said he's getting 29-33 miles on electric range. But
he noted that in more moderate recent weather, the range jumped to 40 miles
on electric range or higher.
Champion believes a hybrid, such as the Toyota Prius, may make more sense
for some trips.
"If you drive about 70 miles, a Prius will actually get you more miles per
gallon than the Volt does," Champion said.
But GM has noted that most Americans can avoid using gasoline for most
regular commuting with the Volt, while its gasoline engine can allow the
freedom to travel farther, if needed.
The magazine has put about 2,500 miles on its Volt. It paid $48,700,
including a $5,000 markup by a Chevy dealer.
Champion noted the Volt is about twice as expensive as a Prius.
He was said the five hour time to recharge the Volt was "annoying" and was
also critical of the power of the Volt heating system.
"You have seat heaters, which keep your body warm, but your feet get cold
and your hands get cold," Champion said.
Consumer Reports will release a full road test of the Volt later this year
and will update it.
Champion praised the heater on the all-electric Nissan Leaf - which Consumer
Reports borrowed from the Japanese automaker -- but said it also got very
short ranges in very cold weather.
On one commute, his range in a Leaf was at 43 miles when he turned onto an
eight-mile stretch of highway, but it fell from 43 to 16 miles after eight
miles at 70 mph.
"If it keeps on going down at this rate, will I get to work," Champion said
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