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TOPIC: Stop Wasting Gas
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos/t/84f0a056a76753d7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, May 4 2011 8:56 am
From: 4poster
On May 4, 11:46 am, "C. E. White" <cewhi...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> "4poster" <voca...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
>
> news:a7660631-1d19-4ed9-a93b-a2a75081b555@q12g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > When you go out on the roads and everyone is speeding, tailgating and
> > passing on the double solid line,
> > as if gas were 50 cents a gallon you know they are playing right into
> > the price gougers' hands.
>
> > And how about those huge gas guzzling trucks, to say nothing of
> > drivers who don't plan their
> > trips or make unnecessary trips and burn even more gasWhat about the
> > commuters who refuse to car pool or the employers who refuse to
> > stagger working hours, so vehicles aren't in gridlock idling away
> > precious gallons of "black gold".
>
> > Just common sense can reduce consumption, thus limiting the Knowing
> > the energy crunch we face, why do automakers push 500 hp gas hogs?
>
> > Why not contact them and demand more production of high mileage
> > vehicles
>
> > Public service vehicles are allowed to idle while the drivers are
> > taking coffee breaks, so they won't get too warm in summer or cold in
> > winter"
>
> > What about US, state and local officials initiating public information
> > campaigns to advise citizens about how to reduce consumption
>
> Why not just add a $1 a gallon tax to gasoline. We tax everything else that
> is considered bad behavior (cigarette, achohol, etc.). Call it the defense
> spendning funding act of 2011. It seems most of ur defence money is spent
> securing oil supplies or defending us from terroists (and South American
> idiots) funded by petro-dollars. Surely if we clamin that it is needed to
> protect us from terroist the insane TEA Party people will demand it be
> implemented at once. Or instead of adding a dollar a gallon to gasoline,
> just add a $75 per barrel tariff on foreign oil - the TEA party people want
> to protect American Jobs right?
>
> Ed- Hide quoted text -
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I am on a fixed income, SSA plus a small pension. My wife has a bad
heart
and takes meds four times a day. When the gas skyrockets it
really causes problems for us and an additional tax on top of the
already
high price would be disasterous. I live in a state where they add a 4
cent tax
on the price, with disregard for those who are impacted the most..
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TOPIC: Gas futures fall 8% on report of less driving
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos/t/936e4d9375d40d15?hl=en
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== 1 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, May 12 2011 8:44 am
From: "C. E. White"
http://www.freep.com/article/20110512/BUSINESS07/105120480/Gas-futures-fall-8-report-less-driving
NEW YORK -- Gasoline futures tumbled almost 8% Wednesday after a government
report showed the strongest evidence yet that higher pump prices are forcing
Americans to drive less.
Oil also dropped back below the $100 mark.
The Energy Information Administration said that U.S. gasoline demand dropped
2.4% last week, the largest drop in seven consecutive weeks of declines.
Analysts said motorists are buying less gas with pump prices close to a
national average of $4 per gallon.
"That $4 number is not just having a psychological impact, but a direct
impact on drivers," energy consultant Jim Ritterbusch said. "Normally, with
the economy recovering, you'd expect gasoline demand to go up, but that's
not happening."
With Memorial Day less than three weeks away, analysts now expect that, at
most, motorists will use about as much gasoline this summer driving season
as they did in 2010.
"My opinion is that they started cutting back when prices hit $3.50" per
gallon, oil analyst Andrew Lipow said. "We haven't seen the full effect of
that just yet."
The national average for a gallon of regular reached $3.50 on March 6. It's
now at $3.96 after reaching $3.98 per gallon last week. Gas rose mostly
because of higher oil prices, but also because of refinery outages.
The EIA data showed that gasoline supplies increased by 1.3 million barrels
last week even with a decline in refining activity around the country.
Gasoline for June delivery plunged, losing 25.69 cents to settle at $3.1228
per gallon on the Nymex.
The CME Group, which owns the Nymex, suspended trading in energy contracts
for five minutes after the gasoline contract dropped by more than 25 cents.
Gas supplies typically decline in the spring as refineries purge their
stocks of winter fuels. This year, supplies fell more than expected as
fires, power outages and other problems temporarily knocked refineries out
of commission.
Gasoline futures had risen Tuesday on concerns that flooding could impact
some refineries along the lower Mississippi River, analysts said.
== 2 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, May 12 2011 10:02 am
From: GrumpyOne
Oil prices began a steep descent about ten days ago yet I have not seen
ONE example of price drops at the pump.
Funny how when someone sneezes in the mideast, prices go up immediately.
Prices should be at least 25¢ per gallon less than they are...
JT
C. E. White wrote:
> http://www.freep.com/article/20110512/BUSINESS07/105120480/Gas-futures-fall-8-report-less-driving
>
> NEW YORK -- Gasoline futures tumbled almost 8% Wednesday after a government
> report showed the strongest evidence yet that higher pump prices are forcing
> Americans to drive less.
> Oil also dropped back below the $100 mark.
>
> The Energy Information Administration said that U.S. gasoline demand dropped
> 2.4% last week, the largest drop in seven consecutive weeks of declines.
> Analysts said motorists are buying less gas with pump prices close to a
> national average of $4 per gallon.
>
> "That $4 number is not just having a psychological impact, but a direct
> impact on drivers," energy consultant Jim Ritterbusch said. "Normally, with
> the economy recovering, you'd expect gasoline demand to go up, but that's
> not happening."
>
> With Memorial Day less than three weeks away, analysts now expect that, at
> most, motorists will use about as much gasoline this summer driving season
> as they did in 2010.
>
> "My opinion is that they started cutting back when prices hit $3.50" per
> gallon, oil analyst Andrew Lipow said. "We haven't seen the full effect of
> that just yet."
>
> The national average for a gallon of regular reached $3.50 on March 6. It's
> now at $3.96 after reaching $3.98 per gallon last week. Gas rose mostly
> because of higher oil prices, but also because of refinery outages.
>
> The EIA data showed that gasoline supplies increased by 1.3 million barrels
> last week even with a decline in refining activity around the country.
> Gasoline for June delivery plunged, losing 25.69 cents to settle at $3.1228
> per gallon on the Nymex.
>
> The CME Group, which owns the Nymex, suspended trading in energy contracts
> for five minutes after the gasoline contract dropped by more than 25 cents.
>
> Gas supplies typically decline in the spring as refineries purge their
> stocks of winter fuels. This year, supplies fell more than expected as
> fires, power outages and other problems temporarily knocked refineries out
> of commission.
>
> Gasoline futures had risen Tuesday on concerns that flooding could impact
> some refineries along the lower Mississippi River, analysts said.
>
>
== 3 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, May 12 2011 10:13 am
From: Lynn McGuire
On 5/12/2011 12:02 PM, GrumpyOne wrote:
> Oil prices began a steep descent about ten days ago yet I have not seen ONE example of price drops at the pump.
>
> Funny how when someone sneezes in the mideast, prices go up immediately.
>
> Prices should be at least 25¢ per gallon less than they are...
>
> JT
No, the refineries are converting to summer gasoline which
is much more expensive to make than winter gasoline.
Lynn
== 4 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, May 12 2011 12:51 pm
From: Fatter Than Ever Moe
C. E. White wrote:
> http://www.freep.com/article/20110512/BUSINESS07/105120480/Gas-futures-fall-8-report-less-driving
>
> NEW YORK -- Gasoline futures tumbled almost 8% Wednesday after a government
> report showed the strongest evidence yet that higher pump prices are forcing
> Americans to drive less.
> Oil also dropped back below the $100 mark.
>
> The Energy Information Administration said that U.S. gasoline demand dropped
> 2.4% last week, the largest drop in seven consecutive weeks of declines.
> Analysts said motorists are buying less gas with pump prices close to a
> national average of $4 per gallon.
>
> "That $4 number is not just having a psychological impact, but a direct
> impact on drivers," energy consultant Jim Ritterbusch said. "Normally, with
> the economy recovering, you'd expect gasoline demand to go up, but that's
> not happening."
>
> With Memorial Day less than three weeks away, analysts now expect that, at
> most, motorists will use about as much gasoline this summer driving season
> as they did in 2010.
>
> "My opinion is that they started cutting back when prices hit $3.50" per
> gallon, oil analyst Andrew Lipow said. "We haven't seen the full effect of
> that just yet."
>
> The national average for a gallon of regular reached $3.50 on March 6. It's
> now at $3.96 after reaching $3.98 per gallon last week. Gas rose mostly
> because of higher oil prices, but also because of refinery outages.
>
> The EIA data showed that gasoline supplies increased by 1.3 million barrels
> last week even with a decline in refining activity around the country.
> Gasoline for June delivery plunged, losing 25.69 cents to settle at $3.1228
> per gallon on the Nymex.
>
> The CME Group, which owns the Nymex, suspended trading in energy contracts
> for five minutes after the gasoline contract dropped by more than 25 cents.
>
> Gas supplies typically decline in the spring as refineries purge their
> stocks of winter fuels. This year, supplies fell more than expected as
> fires, power outages and other problems temporarily knocked refineries out
> of commission.
>
> Gasoline futures had risen Tuesday on concerns that flooding could impact
> some refineries along the lower Mississippi River, analysts said.
>
>
Supply/demand somethings don't change.
== 5 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, May 12 2011 5:36 pm
From: Tegger
GrumpyOne <Grumpy@nowherenot.net> wrote in
news:iqh3qv$598$1@dont-email.me:
> Oil prices began a steep descent about ten days ago yet I have not
> seen ONE example of price drops at the pump.
>
> Funny how when someone sneezes in the mideast, prices go up
> immediately.
>
> Prices should be at least 25¢ per gallon less than they are...
>
Gas is priced on what it costs to /replace/ it. Nobody wants to lower
prices too quickly for fear of the situation reversing itself when it comes
time to replenish supply.
Prices are exactly where they should be for the market conditions
prevailing.
--
Tegger
== 6 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, May 12 2011 5:37 pm
From: Tegger
Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> wrote in news:iqh4g6$dn8$1@dont-email.me:
> On 5/12/2011 12:02 PM, GrumpyOne wrote:
>> Oil prices began a steep descent about ten days ago yet I have not
>> seen ONE example of price drops at the pump.
>>
>> Funny how when someone sneezes in the mideast, prices go up
>> immediately.
>>
>> Prices should be at least 25¢ per gallon less than they are...
>>
>> JT
>
> No, the refineries are converting to summer gasoline which
> is much more expensive to make than winter gasoline.
>
That's one factor. Every year prices climb for a while during changeover,
and every year people whine about it.
--
Tegger
== 7 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, May 12 2011 6:17 pm
From: "Charles Grozny"
"Fatter Than Ever Moe" <HardTimes@TheFarm> wrote in message
news:4dcc3a49$0$15859$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
> C. E. White wrote:
>> http://www.freep.com/article/20110512/BUSINESS07/105120480/Gas-futures-fall-8-report-less-driving
>>
>> NEW YORK -- Gasoline futures tumbled almost 8% Wednesday after a
>> government report showed the strongest evidence yet that higher pump
>> prices are forcing Americans to drive less.
>> Oil also dropped back below the $100 mark.
>>
>> The Energy Information Administration said that U.S. gasoline demand
>> dropped 2.4% last week, the largest drop in seven consecutive weeks of
>> declines. Analysts said motorists are buying less gas with pump prices
>> close to a national average of $4 per gallon.
>>
>> "That $4 number is not just having a psychological impact, but a direct
>> impact on drivers," energy consultant Jim Ritterbusch said. "Normally,
>> with the economy recovering, you'd expect gasoline demand to go up, but
>> that's not happening."
>>
>> With Memorial Day less than three weeks away, analysts now expect that,
>> at most, motorists will use about as much gasoline this summer driving
>> season as they did in 2010.
>>
>> "My opinion is that they started cutting back when prices hit $3.50" per
>> gallon, oil analyst Andrew Lipow said. "We haven't seen the full effect
>> of that just yet."
>>
>> The national average for a gallon of regular reached $3.50 on March 6.
>> It's now at $3.96 after reaching $3.98 per gallon last week. Gas rose
>> mostly because of higher oil prices, but also because of refinery
>> outages.
>>
>> The EIA data showed that gasoline supplies increased by 1.3 million
>> barrels last week even with a decline in refining activity around the
>> country. Gasoline for June delivery plunged, losing 25.69 cents to settle
>> at $3.1228 per gallon on the Nymex.
>>
>> The CME Group, which owns the Nymex, suspended trading in energy
>> contracts for five minutes after the gasoline contract dropped by more
>> than 25 cents.
>>
>> Gas supplies typically decline in the spring as refineries purge their
>> stocks of winter fuels. This year, supplies fell more than expected as
>> fires, power outages and other problems temporarily knocked refineries
>> out of commission.
>>
>> Gasoline futures had risen Tuesday on concerns that flooding could impact
>> some refineries along the lower Mississippi River, analysts said.
>
> Supply/demand somethings don't change.
But Gas prices haven't dropped a penny here.
Charles Grozny
== 8 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, May 12 2011 7:36 pm
From: "Ed Pawlowski"
"Charles Grozny" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote
>>>
>>> NEW YORK -- Gasoline futures tumbled almost 8% Wednesday after a
>>> government report showed the strongest evidence yet that higher pump
>>> prices are forcing Americans to drive less.
>>> Oil also dropped back below the $100 mark.
>>>
>>> Gasoline futures had risen Tuesday on concerns that flooding could
>>> impact some refineries along the lower Mississippi River, analysts said
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