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TOPIC: 1998 V-6 Accord EGR valve dismantle/disassembly.
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 8 2010 12:02 am
From: Meatman
'98 Accord EX V-6. Code PO401 - insufficient EGR flow. TSB/retrofit
exists for this involving drilling-over EGR port in plenum, installing
sleeve, etc. Done that part. Here's the rest: I removed and began
DISASSEMBLING the EGR valve itself. Yes, you read correctly. I
removed the 3(or 4?) small bolts and nuts that hold the metal mounting
base to the upper electrical part in an attempt to COMPLETELY
diassemble the valve into 2 basic pieces. However the metal plunger/
bypass ass'y connects the two portions and there is a high-heat metal-
foil gasket in between...now damaged, obviously. I either need to get
this bitch all the way apart (I can't seem to) and replace the gasket
OR find a suitable RTV (copper?) OR just replace the whole valve.
Obviously I would like to reverse my disassembly and repair/replace
the gasket. So let's run with that. Thanks. Kevin.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 8 2010 12:36 pm
From: jim beam
On 10/08/2010 12:02 AM, Meatman wrote:
> '98 Accord EX V-6. Code PO401 - insufficient EGR flow. TSB/retrofit
> exists for this involving drilling-over EGR port in plenum, installing
> sleeve, etc. Done that part. Here's the rest: I removed and began
> DISASSEMBLING the EGR valve itself. Yes, you read correctly. I
> removed the 3(or 4?) small bolts and nuts that hold the metal mounting
> base to the upper electrical part in an attempt to COMPLETELY
> diassemble the valve into 2 basic pieces. However the metal plunger/
> bypass ass'y connects the two portions and there is a high-heat metal-
> foil gasket in between...now damaged, obviously. I either need to get
> this bitch all the way apart (I can't seem to) and replace the gasket
> OR find a suitable RTV (copper?) OR just replace the whole valve.
> Obviously I would like to reverse my disassembly and repair/replace
> the gasket. So let's run with that. Thanks. Kevin.
i'd cut your time losses and just get a new valve from a junkyard.
egr valves can run very hot - the rtv gasket stuff won't cope. they
don't usually need much more than a good internal scraping to get the
soot out. you can do this without the disassembly you've done. just
use some vacuum hose connected to the diaphragm opener to suck open the
valve pintle, then you can use a needle to remove the accumulation.
--
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 8 2010 5:10 am
From: ACAR
On Sep 30, 8:46 am, Tom Adams <tadams...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ESC is considered to be the greatest advance in safety since the
> seatbelt. It will be required on all 2012 cars, but it's still
> optional or not available on some 2010 and 2011 models:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_stability_control#Effectiveness
check the hype re. ABS
it was supposed to be the greatest safety advance since the
seatbelt...
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 8 2010 12:30 pm
From: jim beam
On 10/08/2010 05:10 AM, ACAR wrote:
> On Sep 30, 8:46�am, Tom Adams<tadams...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> ESC is considered to be the greatest advance in safety since the
>> seatbelt. �It will be required on all 2012 cars, but it's still
>> optional or not available on some 2010 and 2011 models:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_stability_control#Effectiveness
>
> check the hype re. ABS
> it was supposed to be the greatest safety advance since the
> seatbelt...
indeed.
e.s.c. hype somehow completely misses the fact that since the exploder
fiasco, not only frod but many other suv manufacturers have transitioned
to lower vehicles with wider wheel bases and even more importantly,
independent rear suspension. with that and mandatory driver skid
training, you could do without e.s.c. tpms and abs too.
an interesting abs quote:
"Risk compensation
Anti-lock brakes are the subject of some experiments centred around risk
compensation theory, which asserts that drivers adapt to the safety
benefit of ABS by driving more aggressively. In a Munich study, half a
fleet of taxicabs was equipped with anti-lock brakes, while the other
half had conventional brake systems. The crash rate was substantially
the same for both types of cab, and Wilde concludes this was due to
drivers of ABS-equipped cabs taking more risks, assuming that ABS would
take care of them, while the non-ABS drivers drove more carefully since
ABS would not be there to help in case of a dangerous situation. A
similar study was carried out in Oslo, with similar results."
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-lock_braking_system
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== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 8 2010 5:25 am
From: ACAR
On Oct 4, 6:41 pm, Dave Garrett <d...@compassnet.com> wrote:
snip
>
> I was not entirely surprised but definitely dismayed to discover, via a
> passing comment in a recent thread, that TPMS has apparently become
> federally mandated on all new cars. More complexity, more cost, more
> unnecessary weight. Guess I'm going to keep driving older cars until I
> either can't get parts anymore to keep them running, or I get too old to
> remember or care what real driving used to be like.
>
> Dave "get off my lawn"
Simple TPMS systems operate by using the ABS system to detect
differences in tire rotation and add no weight, only minimal
complexity and that idiot light on the dash. My 1998 Sienna had that.
In 250,000 miles it provided useful information twice and probably
saved a tire once. However, it failed to detect small pressure drops
due to slow leaks. I'd find these first.
My 2010 Sienna has a new TPMS; using detectors in each wheel, costing
me $38 each when installed by The Tire Rack. I have to get these
sensors initialized at the dealership before they'll work Presumably,
this new system will detect slow leaks. We'll see.
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 8 2010 1:19 pm
From: Tony Harding
On 10/08/10 15:30, jim beam wrote:
> On 10/08/2010 05:10 AM, ACAR wrote:
>> On Sep 30, 8:46�am, Tom Adams<tadams...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> ESC is considered to be the greatest advance in safety since the
>>> seatbelt. �It will be required on all 2012 cars, but it's still
>>> optional or not available on some 2010 and 2011 models:
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_stability_control#Effectiveness
>>
>> check the hype re. ABS
>> it was supposed to be the greatest safety advance since the
>> seatbelt...
>
> indeed.
>
> e.s.c. hype somehow completely misses the fact that since the exploder
> fiasco, not only frod but many other suv manufacturers have transitioned
> to lower vehicles with wider wheel bases and even more importantly,
> independent rear suspension. with that and mandatory driver skid
> training, you could do without e.s.c. tpms and abs too.
>
> an interesting abs quote:
>
> "Risk compensation
>
> Anti-lock brakes are the subject of some experiments centred around risk
> compensation theory, which asserts that drivers adapt to the safety
> benefit of ABS by driving more aggressively. In a Munich study, half a
> fleet of taxicabs was equipped with anti-lock brakes, while the other
> half had conventional brake systems. The crash rate was substantially
> the same for both types of cab, and Wilde concludes this was due to
> drivers of ABS-equipped cabs taking more risks, assuming that ABS would
> take care of them, while the non-ABS drivers drove more carefully since
> ABS would not be there to help in case of a dangerous situation. A
> similar study was carried out in Oslo, with similar results."
Was there *any* data to support that <ridiculous> conclusion?
So we all drive more recklessly because we have seat belts? Door crash
bars? Rear view mirror? ...
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 8 2010 1:38 pm
From: jim beam
On 10/08/2010 01:19 PM, Tony Harding wrote:
> On 10/08/10 15:30, jim beam wrote:
>> On 10/08/2010 05:10 AM, ACAR wrote:
>>> On Sep 30, 8:46�am, Tom Adams<tadams...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> ESC is considered to be the greatest advance in safety since the
>>>> seatbelt. �It will be required on all 2012 cars, but it's still
>>>> optional or not available on some 2010 and 2011 models:
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_stability_control#Effectiveness
>>>
>>> check the hype re. ABS
>>> it was supposed to be the greatest safety advance since the
>>> seatbelt...
>>
>> indeed.
>>
>> e.s.c. hype somehow completely misses the fact that since the exploder
>> fiasco, not only frod but many other suv manufacturers have transitioned
>> to lower vehicles with wider wheel bases and even more importantly,
>> independent rear suspension. with that and mandatory driver skid
>> training, you could do without e.s.c. tpms and abs too.
>>
>> an interesting abs quote:
>>
>> "Risk compensation
>>
>> Anti-lock brakes are the subject of some experiments centred around risk
>> compensation theory, which asserts that drivers adapt to the safety
>> benefit of ABS by driving more aggressively. In a Munich study, half a
>> fleet of taxicabs was equipped with anti-lock brakes, while the other
>> half had conventional brake systems. The crash rate was substantially
>> the same for both types of cab, and Wilde concludes this was due to
>> drivers of ABS-equipped cabs taking more risks, assuming that ABS would
>> take care of them, while the non-ABS drivers drove more carefully since
>> ABS would not be there to help in case of a dangerous situation. A
>> similar study was carried out in Oslo, with similar results."
>
> Was there *any* data to support that <ridiculous> conclusion?
the cite was quoted in the linked version.
http://psyc.queensu.ca/target/chapter07.html
>
> So we all drive more recklessly because we have seat belts? Door crash
> bars? Rear view mirror? ...
technically, we almost certainly do.
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