Hi Laxy..
I actually spoke to Marty Smith one time through a couple of emails, as I had commented on one of his columns back in 2008 regarding the COT and how it is not a race car, but a 200 mph parade lap car, because no one can really pass anyone, especially on the cookie cutter tracks... which was in direct disagreement with his column. In his column, he'd stated how Nascar had hit the nail on the head with this car, and that safety outweighs performance, and that the fans will come to understand and appreciate this thing... ooooooh boy...
anyway, he told me that he liked the illustrations I used in my emails to him, and then he freakin used them. I made the analogy that Nascar, like the mythical Greek character Icarus, has flown too close to the sun on their wax wings, and are now crashing into the sea. He used it to describe the careers of some drivers... I sent him an email lettin him know that I saw that too.. Columnists can editorialize, and offer opinions, but you have to be careful. Nascar can come after you if you don't have your ducks in a row.
I feel very flattered by your comments to me Lorax.. and its always good to see yous on here. It's 74 degrees here today, and exactly one month ago, they were piling up snow in the corners of the hospital parking lots here. IT IS A VERY NICE DAY OUTSIDE! I must go sample more of this, this thing called "the sun" and the warmth it provides.
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From: Carol aka Lorax <lastcallgal2rw@
To: NASCAR-Group@
Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 7:21:30 AM
Subject: Re: [NASCAR-Group] Keslowski/Edwards Saga?
I so agree with all you said Michael ya sure know how to put the words down and make it very interesting! Ya need a job like beccas LOL
"Da Lorax"
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Carol (Wood) Waters
--- On Tue, 3/9/10, polt8115 <poltergeist8@ sbcglobal. net> wrote:
From: polt8115 <poltergeist8@ sbcglobal. net>
Subject: [NASCAR-Group] Keslowski/Edwards Saga?
To: NASCAR-Group@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 12:50 AM
Okay. So the talking heads and the sensationalized media is looking at
this Edwards/Keslowski thing as something that has been going on since
Talladega last spring. Wha? The very ones saying this are the ones that
also said with regards to the Talladega thing: "That was no one's fault.
Keslowski held his position, and stayed above the yellow line." Even
Edwards then said that he'd have done the same thing, and didn't blame
Kes one bit.
Then came yesterday.
When I looked at the situation closer, I began to realize something.
Carl Edwards' return to the track would have gained him no positions,
with him being over 150 laps down. Once he pulled on that track, Nascar
HAD to know what was going on. I have watched this lap 30 video a bunch,
and sadly, Carl did "swoop" on down on Keslowski. I realize that Kes,
like Kyle Busch and Denny Hamlin, have a rep for the chrome horn, and
putting other drivers in the spin cycle. I am not giving him sainthood
here on the racing thing. However, I watched "Green, White, Checker" on
Nascar.com. Those two guys talked about the Edwards/Keslowski deal from
yesterday like these two have this acrimonious history with each other,
when in reality, sans the Talladega thing, they've raced rather well
together. Carl Edwards mantra in his interview with Dick Berggeren was
about "respect" and the safety of other drivers. How in the buttery
side of hell can he utter those words, when he himself has done some
things WITHOUT regard to the safety of those he's retaliated against?
Nascar said during speedweeks this year that 'the gloves are off. The
drivers can settle these things on their own". Okay, I agree to a large
extent on this. Self policing is by far the most effective tool of
earning and learning respect amongst the drivers. Save it for Bristol,
Martinsville, Richmond, or something of the like. Not at a 195mph track.
It's a damned shame that when Nascar finally does listen to the fans,
and gives them some taste from the days when they raced, it takes one
dumbass to force Nascar into having to make it clear to certain turd
heads that there is a time and a place for this. Look at 2005, Dover,
Fall race. Rusty Wallace spun Ricky Rudd with about 20 laps to go, and
Rudd was dominating that race. Now, why did ol Rustmeister do this?
Because of Richmond prior to that, where Rudd drove into the side of
Rusty's car, and dumped him into the wall, and out of the race. Rusty
was on his way to a top five finish.
I know that Keslowski has made some fast enemies, and yes, I'm looking
at you, Denny Hamlin/Kyle Busch fans. He's done nothing more than they
themselves have done. Hell, Kyle even hit a parked Casey Mears under a
red flag at Phoenix in 2006, because in his mind, Mears wrecked him..
purposely or no, according to Kyle, he deserved what he(Mears) got. The
douchebaggery continued at Charlotte that same year. Same driver. Blows
a tire coming out of turn four, Mears again here, going into the
trioval, wrecks, takes Kyle Busch out of the race. What does master Kyle
do? Walks to the racing surface himself, because in his mind, according
to his post accident comments, " A better driver would have been able to
save it"... bullshit.No driver doing 190mph coming out of turn four at
Charlotte will save a car from spinning with a blown tire.. NO ONE. So,
although he blew a tire, Mears was able to continue, and Kyle, well he
walks out on the racing surface to throw his HANS device at Mears. Why?
Because he's a manly man.
So, when you judge Keslowski, be sure and look at the history of other
drivers involved. After all, in 2000, Jeremey Mayfield punted Dale Sr
coming out of the final turn at Pocono, something that Sr had done many
times himself during his career. Mayfield said in his post race
interview, "It was a good race, and a good win. I don't know if the
price I'll pay will be worth it though". Sr never retaliated on track,
other than to give Jerm the finger on the cool down lap. Sr admitted in
his post race that 'sometimes you give it, sometimes you get it. That's
racin....' Edwards does drive with the mentality of "I'm bigger than he
is, and a veteran of Cup racing now, so I deserve more respect."
Bullshit again. Keslowski's sponsors pay the same good money that the
remaining 42 cars also get. Now why should he be any less because he's
around veterans. Hell, he's raced these guys regularly on the Nationwide
circuit for the last three years, so it's not like he's racing them for
the first time! So this stupidity of talking about Brad like they've
never raced against him before is just ego protecting pride.
I'm done. The asininity is astounding on this one. Good job once again
Goodyear. Take the Hendrick and Joe Gibbs teams to Atlanta for
aggressive tire testing, have them put aggressive set ups in the cars,
then bring a tire that had NOTHING to do with the data collected from
these tests. Of course, there were a few kiss asses that loved the tire,
but there was far more that took great umbrage with the way that
Goodyear continues to collect this data, and then evidently, does
nothing more than convert it into toilet paper. Bring Michelin, Hoosier,
Bridgestone/ Firestone into this thing, let them do some tire testing for
these cars as well, and you watch.. Goodyear will crap a tire out that
will be perfect for the drivers to race on. They are under pressure,
according to Pemberton, to create a tire that can perform. He also said
that they brought a good tire this time. He also said that Goodyear
accepts the blame when it is their fault. Bull! That crap at Indy in
2008, anyone remember the 400 mile race, broken down in to ten to twelve
lap increments because they brought a tire that appeared to be made out
of pencil erasers? Goodyear blamed the track, and the 'diamonding" that
Tony George does to that thing every year to give the cars more grip,
and has done that in the ten years or so that Nascar had been running
there. This problem did not happen until the COT and it's design based
on an uneven plane, for which Goodyear can't seem to get it right, were
introduced. Hell, Michelin produces tires that the F1 guys use, and they
are carbon composite tires! They could really stand ol Goodyear on it's
head.
I'm out. I love you guys...
moi
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