Possible punishment, Fines yes, Points yes, Probation yes, Suspension never happen. To much money involved.
Tim 68134
--- On Sun, 3/7/10, Carol aka Lorax <lastcallgal2rw@
From: Carol aka Lorax <lastcallgal2rw@
Subject: Re: [NASCAR-Group] Re: F'ing Carl...
To: NASCAR-Group@
Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 10:30 PM
I cant wait to see what they do to Carl either, they better not just slap hime on the wrist either! hope they throw the book at him and really fine him and he stays home for next few races!
"Da Lorax"
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Carol (Wood) Waters
--- On Sun, 3/7/10, polt8115 <poltergeist8@ sbcglobal. net> wrote:
From: polt8115 <poltergeist8@ sbcglobal. net>
Subject: [NASCAR-Group] Re: F'ing Carl...
To: NASCAR-Group@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 11:12 PM
In 2004, Carl Edwards did NOT lift to let Dale Jr in, a chaser if you
will, and it sent Jr into the backstretch wall. Carl Edwards said after
that incident, "It's not my job to lift". I thought, "All righty then.
Let's see what happens on the 'what comes around' senario. Michigan,
2007: going for the win, last lap, Edwards gets loose coming out of turn
two, and Jr, well, it's not his job to lift, is it? Or is that just for
Carl? Edwards goes into the pits on the cool down laps, while NASCAR
sorts out the winner, and BAM! Comes out off pit road and slams the hell
out of Jr's car whilst Jr has his hand out the window. He even visited
Jr in victory lane, and Edwards actually put his hands on Jr, and it was
reported that Jr told him that he was playing things the way Carl played
it with him. He reminded Carl it's not his job to lift either, AND that
if he didn't remove his hand, win or lose, he was going to not back
down.
In 2007, that's the same year that Edwards walked up to Kenseth, a man
roughly half Carl's size, in the midst of an interview, and basically
grabs him, stuffs him up against the wall, and then does that half
cocked half punch towards Matty. Matt flinched, and Edwards laughed it
off. Here's the funny, Edwards had been roughing Matty up there in
Martinsville for several laps. Matt returned in kind, and Carl got spun.
Carl Edwards bullied his own teammate on and off the track on national
television. His explanation? The next day, he blamed all of his
teammates for not 'inviting' him to things they do, and blamed Jack
Roush for allowing them to exclude him, and not giving him the same
stuff they get. He accepted NO blame for his own part.
Then along comes him and Kyle Bush. Kyle did to Carl what Carl did to Jr
at Michigan, however, in this instance, Edwards used the same bump and
run that ever single driver in Nascar has ever used at Bristol. In 2008,
during a wreck at Charlotte Motor Speedway, he turned down pit road to
avoid the wreck, but he DID NOT LIFT. Nascar penalized him for it. He
cussed Nascar out over the radio, and was called to the principal's
office afterward.
Then today. I read where someone here said, "kudos to Carl for teaching
Brad a lesson". Um, Brad was on the yellow line, dead center of turns 1
and 2, at 180 mph, and you can tell Brad lifted off the gas by how fast
Bobby Labonte gained on Brad. Does not Carl's spotter have to accept
blame for that one? OR if his spotter was saying, "one low, one low" and
Carl dropped down anyway, then Carl wrecked himself. But, once again, he
goes to the pits, gets the car fixed, and as Larry McReynolds put it,
"I'm sorry, but you can see those white gloves in that 99 car turn
right". Carl can say he didn't mean for that outcome to happen all day,
but damn. I believe that this should be a self policing sport. It used
to be one of the two ways drivers learned to respect each other. You
either raced them clean and hard, or you wrecked them. Which ever one
you did, you could expect the driver to do the same in kind. I remember
when, in the 80's all the way through the mid 90's, everyone called Sr a
dirty driver. He could be at times. But.... I have old vhs tapes of many
races where Sr raced them hard and clean. I got one from 1989, Dover,
spring race, the Peak Performance 400. Dale Earnhardt and Mark Martin
put on a racing clinic for the world to see. Mark Martin raced the
living hell out of Dale Sr for about 30 laps. Sr taking the high groove,
Martin the low. and man was it cool as hell. Did you guys EVER hear of
Dale Sr and Mark Martin having bad words for or against each other?
Never. Respect. Martin was the new 'ish' guy, and Dale, already a
champion three times over. Look at Sr and Dale Jarrett. Dale Sr once
referred to Jarrett as "the best driver he'd ever raced".
My point is this: Yeah, Kes has pissed some people off. All newcomers do
that. Some come in like Kes has, which is the same as say, Kyle Busch
did, the same as Ernie Irvan did, the same as Cale Yaroborough did, the
Allison's, etc. Others come in like Mark Martin, Matt Kenseth, (Mark's
student), Jeff Gordon, etc. They didn't wreck a bunch of people, nor did
they back down. They did go out and respect those they raced and raced
them hard and clean. They got the same in return, mostly.
Carl Edwards, and his 'aww shucks' attitude hides something far more
nefarious to me, and always has. and his antics today, which are within
the idiom by which he retaliates and operates in these situations, need
to be addressed a bit stronger by Nascar. If Kevin Harvick can be parked
for a race because of acting similar, then why not Carl? After all, if
anyone cares to remember, Edwards and his muscled out ego walked into
Harvick's garage area the week after Carl did his bump draft in the
center of turn three at Talladega and wrecked Harvick, and Kevin was
very verbal about Carl's stupidity that week. So Cousin Carl decided it
was time to go and "sort Kevin out" or, pull a Matt Kenseth, and much to
Carl's dismay, and the surprise of everyone that saw it, Kevin planted
Carl's ass on the hood of his car, and held his ass there whilst he let
Carl know that he came to the wrong place to play that bully shit. Carl
and Kevin have had no on track incidents since then... seems Carl
learned some of what he was, by his account, teaching Kes.. respect.
This Tuesday ought to be really interesting. That's always the day
Nascar announces penalties for rule infractions and the what not. I am
curious to see what they do. And, do they also pull Kes, Hamlin, and
Montoya in there as well?
We shall see.
moi
--- In NASCAR-Group@ yahoogroups. com, A. Jones <ajones@...> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:54:15 -0800 (PST), willy
> danceswithbeers@ ... wrote:
>
> >What an ass!!!
>
> He can put on his "I'm a nice guy" act all he wants, but the truth
> about Carl Edwards has been evident since his pit road assault of
> Matt Kenseth a few years back. He's not fooling anyone.
>
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