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TOPIC: test
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos/t/20942a19f093e37b?hl=en
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Date: Fri, Apr 23 2010 10:58 am
From: cselby@mts.net
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TOPIC: GM EV1
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos/t/7b4da9d0e5e9bf11?hl=en
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Mon, May 3 2010 9:27 am
From: "hls"
"Dave U. Random" <anonymous@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> wrote in message
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> At more than 2,500 units sold, this is the most
> successful electric car of the modern era and may be the
> reason why the electric-car idea gained momentum late in
> the century...
>
> Continued: http://xrl.us/CitiCar
>
From Wikipedia
"At the turn of the century, 40 percent of American automobiles were powered
by steam, 38 percent by electricity, and 22 percent by gasoline. 33,842
electric cars were registered in the United States, and America became the
country where electric cars had gained the most acceptance. Sales of
electric cars peaked in 1912."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car
We must re-invent the battery, it seems
== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Mon, May 3 2010 10:05 am
From: "C. E. White"
"hls" <hls@nospam.nix> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave U. Random" <anonymous@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> wrote in
> message
> news:12395ec84daf6c454a77c1892f35a93a@anonymitaet-im-inter.net...
>> At more than 2,500 units sold, this is the most
>> successful electric car of the modern era and may be the
>> reason why the electric-car idea gained momentum late in
>> the century...
>>
>> Continued: http://xrl.us/CitiCar
>>
>
> From Wikipedia
> "At the turn of the century, 40 percent of American automobiles were
> powered by steam, 38 percent by electricity, and 22 percent by
> gasoline. 33,842 electric cars were registered in the United States,
> and America became the country where electric cars had gained the
> most acceptance. Sales of electric cars peaked in 1912."
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car
>
> We must re-invent the battery, it seems
Not if you are willing to live with a range of 30 miles and a top
speed of 30 mph.
Ed
== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Mon, May 3 2010 10:12 am
From: Björn Helgason
On 3 Maj, 16:27, "hls" <h...@nospam.nix> wrote:
> "Dave U. Random" <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> wrote in messagenews:12395ec84daf6c454a77c1892f35a93a@anonymitaet-im-inter.net...
>
> > At more than 2,500 units sold, this is the most
> > successful electric car of the modern era and may be the
> > reason why the electric-car idea gained momentum late in
> > the century...
>
> > Continued:http://xrl.us/CitiCar
>
> From Wikipedia
> "At the turn of the century, 40 percent of American automobiles were powered
> by steam, 38 percent by electricity, and 22 percent by gasoline. 33,842
> electric cars were registered in the United States, and America became the
> country where electric cars had gained the most acceptance. Sales of
> electric cars peaked in 1912."
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car
>
> We must re-invent the battery, it seems
The battery has been re-invented and that is why the electical car has
become a reality.
Companies like GMW routinely discarded electrical options because they
are too efficient and last longer than combustion cars.
Because of competition from cellphones and computers the batteries
have become better and others than GMW and the likes are coming
massively into the market for electrical cars.
The auto industry is going into a bigger transition than ever before
and those who are not electric are out.
Hybrids will have some parenthetical short time lasting a few years
while there will be enough production capacity of electrical cars.
It is already happening so there is no question of when it is now and
anyone thinking about replacing a car should think electric or at
least pluginhybrid in the meantime.
The old car as we know it is just that old car and old technology and
is soon soooo obsolete.
This change is part of the reason why GM went bust and why GMW will
never make it.
== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Mon, May 3 2010 11:00 am
From: "hls"
"Björn Helgason" <gosinn@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:604b90f5-139e-4848-b0ab-a9a794c793f1@q32g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On 3 Maj, 16:27, "hls" <h...@nospam.nix> wrote:
> "Dave U. Random" <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> wrote in
> messagenews:12395ec84daf6c454a77c1892f35a93a@anonymitaet-im-inter.net...
>
> > At more than 2,500 units sold, this is the most
> > successful electric car of the modern era and may be the
> > reason why the electric-car idea gained momentum late in
> > the century...
>
> > Continued:http://xrl.us/CitiCar
>
> From Wikipedia
> "At the turn of the century, 40 percent of American automobiles were
> powered
> by steam, 38 percent by electricity, and 22 percent by gasoline. 33,842
> electric cars were registered in the United States, and America became the
> country where electric cars had gained the most acceptance. Sales of
> electric cars peaked in 1912."
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car
>
> We must re-invent the battery, it seems
The battery has been re-invented and that is why the electical car has
become a reality.
\
*****
I dont think it has become a reality. Yes, you can get some sort of
electrical car (cart, more like it), and it will get you a few miles between
charges until, like computers using similar battery technology, the
charge interval worsens to the point of frustration.
It is a concept whose time is not quite ripe.
I have a GM Reatta which was made in 1990. It was an attempt
by GM to put some of their parts into a nice looking little chassis,
bugger the thing to death with electronics that were before their time
(meaning they appealed to some people but quickly became an
unbearable PITA). It was an expensive failure. Still attractive and
nice to drive, when the gods of transportation are looking the other
way, it was a "high technology" flop.
I think the present electric cars are bound to be floppish too. Someday
they may be worth buying, but right now I dont have the time, the
income, the patience, and the inclination to buy into another Floppomobile.
== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Mon, May 3 2010 12:01 pm
From: Björn Helgason
On 3 Maj, 18:00, "hls" <h...@nospam.nix> wrote:
> "Björn Helgason" <gos...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:604b90f5-139e-4848-b0ab-a9a794c793f1@q32g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On 3 Maj, 16:27, "hls" <h...@nospam.nix> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Dave U. Random" <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> wrote in
> > messagenews:12395ec84daf6c454a77c1892f35a93a@anonymitaet-im-inter.net..
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