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* 2003 Honda Accord SRS indicator light - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* CRX : no restart after stall - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: 2003 Honda Accord SRS indicator light
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/c6457995b5aff4ee?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 30 2010 6:32 pm
From: Tegger
Elle <honda.lioness@gmail.com> wrote in
news:16593ed3-99b4-4dd6-91a5-18c9974ce790@t14g2000prm.googlegroups.com:
> On Apr 28, 8:19 pm, Tegger <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:
>> Elle <honda.lion...@gmail.com> wrote in news:1576a559-c369-42b7-bc4e-
>> 1932e0619...@z13g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>> > My 2003 Civic had the SRS light on. I read the code myself. It
>> > turned out to be the seat belt tensioner. Most, but it seems not
>> > all, dealers cover this in the U.S. under the lifetime seat belt
>> > warranty on all Hondas. (Apparently some dealers argue the part
>> > does not involve seat belt integrity, and so it is not
>> > warrant-able. Yet other dealers say the whole belt buckle must be
>> > replaced to correct the failed airbag switch problem, so it is
>> > warrantable.)
>>
>> That's not a dealer warranty,
>
>
> I am repeating what many people have posted at honda-tech.com: That
> their dealer in the U.S. refused to cover the repair.
I'm not disputing what you say or what you've read. All I'm saying is
that it's not the dealer's place to refuse, unless the situation very
clearly contravenes one or more of American Honda's explicit criteria.
And even then, the car's owner has the option of calling American Honda
to question the dealer's decision.
> Also, my seat
> belt did everything you listed when I the belt tensioner yada SRS code
> came up. Yet my dealer read this very code and declared it was fully
> warrantied.
Then it would appear that the explosive tensioners are considered part
of the seat belt assembly.
Furthermore, it is impossible to determine if the tensioners are
functional/operable unless they are actually deployed (and thus
destroyed), so techs have to go by the SRS code to determine
operability. It's sort of like the old joke about the <insert favored
racial slur here> who tested all his matches by striking them to make
sure they'd work when actually needed.
> I am relating hard facts here. Also, every dealer has, on
> some repairs, some room to argue, with the manufacturer, for whether a
> repair should be warrantied. It is not always as black and white as
> you seem to suggest.
When it comes to the Lifetime Limited Seat Belt Warranty, it IS
black-and-white. American Honda makes it VERY clear to its dealers
what's warrantable and what is not.
Your car's Warranty Manuals (in the same envelope as the Owner's Manual)
should give you those very same particulars.
--
Tegger
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 1 2010 9:10 pm
From: Kaz Kylheku
On 2010-04-28, Guy <void@void.com> wrote:
> they want $103 to read the codes.
I just checked Ebay; OBD II scanners (the kind that plug into a
laptop's USB port) are going for less than $30.
Charging money to plug in a scanner and read codes is a criminal ripoff.
With just one $103 job, the equipment pays for itself three times over
again. The ``labor'' is just plugging a cable under your dashboard, and
pushing a button, about as difficult as using a vacuum cleaner.
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TOPIC: CRX : no restart after stall
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/00bde1da561a76d8?hl=en
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Date: Sat, May 1 2010 9:23 pm
From: Kaz Kylheku
On 2010-04-30, Meatman <KevinLee33@comcast.net> wrote:
> Walked away for NO MORE than 5-10 mins and tried
> again. Perfect, started right up. Thoughts?
Wild-assed guess: engine flooded with fuel, which had a chance to
evaporate?
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