Wednesday, May 26, 2010

rec.autos.makers.honda - 4 new messages in 4 topics - digest

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* Door ajar circuit / module for 1987 Accord 3Dr LXI - problem fixed. - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/5cb7de1977208212?hl=en
* Do I really need new brakes? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/ee6125974ce7b78f?hl=en
* '95 Del Sol SRS light - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/e2730d7fb19d7d97?hl=en
* Hublot Watch (paypal payment) (http://www.cntrade09.com ) - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/b513bb0814ec9376?hl=en

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TOPIC: Door ajar circuit / module for 1987 Accord 3Dr LXI - problem fixed.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/5cb7de1977208212?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, May 24 2010 9:34 am
From: Randy


An interesting experience. 1st I find out my 1987 Accord LXI Hatchback
in one of a handful "just like it". Being one of the last made - they
have a bunch of 1988 "stuff" in them - and you really need a 1988
manual for that "stuff".

As a result - not even the local Honda dealer's 1987 parts system
covers those portions of the car - either.

I'm posting this for others who might have be putting up with that
incessant beep beep beeping - and finding no help in actually fixing
the problem - rather than just disconnecting the beeper (which is
indeed at the rear-view mirror).

Here's what it turned out to be: the second "door switch" in the
driver's door. There is a "door latch" switch in the door jamb - it
has nothing to do with this issue (and was working fine). There is
also a switch in the door locking mechanism inside the door. This is
not documented in any of the 1987 Accord service info - certainly not
on the wiring diagrams, cable routing sheets, etc.

This switch is part of the Automatic Seat Belt retractor tensioning
system - which is really a 1988 "thing" - but as noted - (obviously)
some 1987s wound up with the system as well. The seat belt tension
control "box" is under the passenger seat - and controls the "take-up"
of the seatbelts under certain circumstances. Since extra "stuff" had
to be added to control these automatic belts - Honda also added the
extra seatbelt reminders (upper "console" w/beeper) and the Door Ajar
warning light.

In this case - it was a "sluggish" switch in the internal lock
mechanism that was causing the problem. Oiling the system down
(Hammond Organ light non-gumming oil) fixed the problem.


best to all!
randy

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TOPIC: Do I really need new brakes?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/ee6125974ce7b78f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, May 25 2010 8:23 am
From: Tony Harding


On 05/24/10 05:14, A. Nonimus wrote:
> On May 20, 8:39 pm, "E. Meyer"<epmeye...@msn.com> wrote:
>> On 5/20/10 4:50 PM, in article Xns9D7EB5885B247teg...@208.90.168.18,
> OK. Honda recommends it, but my experience
>> says they don't vibrate when you change the pads, the wear is acceptable (at
>> least 90k miles between pad changes), and I have not experienced a rotor
>> destroyed because of a stuck caliper eating off the outer pad. I have
>> experienced a stuck caliper and the wear indicator signaled the wear prior
>> to any damage.
>>
>> I do agree that 2mm is time to replace the pads. That's pretty thin.
>
> See - this is why I suspect my Honda Dealer is lying to me. As you
> say, "90k miles between pad changes"...
> This is exactly what my former-mechanic friend said to me, that no way
> I should need brakes at 14k miles.
>
> I guess I won't know until I get someone I can trust to open up the
> brakes and show them to me.
> Yeah, they have to show them at the Dealer but I figure they just keep
> an old one with 2mm laying around so they can use that to show me...

I always tell the dealer or other potential miscreant that I want to see
them on the car.

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TOPIC: '95 Del Sol SRS light
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/e2730d7fb19d7d97?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, May 25 2010 8:52 pm
From: Dillon Pyron


Thus spake gmccx <noone@notvalid.com> :

>Dillon Pyron wrote:
>> Thus spake gmccx <noone@notvalid.com> :
>>
>>> The light is stuck on and will not reset. I jumpered the plug to cause
>>> it to show the error code (blinks) and it says "Internal SRS unit failure".
>>>
>>> Any odds that this is anything _but_ a failed SRS unit?
>>
>> Sure. Of course, there are odds that you could hit the Power Ball
>> tomorrow. Oh a bus could hit you.
>>
>> Since we're talking about a 15 year old car, I'm going to put a $5
>> bill on "failed SRS unit".
>
>:-)
>
>I'll be back for my $5'er if it turns out any different.

Name a charity and I'll make it $25. Really.

>
>Given that the price of the unit will pretty well total the car I'm
>probably gonna just have to live with it (or die without it...whatever).

SRS equipment (ie airbags and detonators) are "supposed" to be
replaced every 10 years. At least that's what the manuals and NHSTA
have to say. So it may not actually be a "failed" unit so much as a
"I (the computer that knows all, sees all) don't trust this anymore"
--

- dillon I am not invalid

Warick: "Who brings a gun to a knife fight?"
Gil: "The winner?"

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TOPIC: Hublot Watch (paypal payment) (http://www.cntrade09.com )
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/b513bb0814ec9376?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, May 26 2010 12:09 am
From: xiangmei chen


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