Monday, May 3, 2010

rec.autos.makers.honda - 6 new messages in 2 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* CRX : no restart after stall - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/00bde1da561a76d8?hl=en
* 2003 Honda Accord SRS indicator light - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/c6457995b5aff4ee?hl=en

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TOPIC: CRX : no restart after stall
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/00bde1da561a76d8?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, May 1 2010 9:23 pm
From: Kaz Kylheku


On 2010-04-30, Meatman <KevinLee33@comcast.net> wrote:
> Walked away for NO MORE than 5-10 mins and tried
> again. Perfect, started right up. Thoughts?

Wild-assed guess: engine flooded with fuel, which had a chance to
evaporate?


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, May 2 2010 3:09 am
From: Meatman


On May 1, 11:23 pm, Kaz Kylheku <kkylh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2010-04-30, Meatman <KevinLe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Walked away for NO MORE than 5-10 mins and tried
> > again.  Perfect, started right up.  Thoughts?
>
> Wild-assed guess: engine flooded with fuel, which had a chance to
> evaporate?

Hard to say, for me. Tried to do an exact "reinactment" last night.
But no luck. It wouldn't fail. Will try again. Was kinda sorta
under the impression that "flooded" applied to carbs, not FI. This
CRX if DPFI if that helps.


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, May 2 2010 8:30 am
From: jim beam


On 05/02/2010 03:09 AM, Meatman wrote:
> On May 1, 11:23�pm, Kaz Kylheku<kkylh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2010-04-30, Meatman<KevinLe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Walked away for NO MORE than 5-10 mins and tried
>>> again. �Perfect, started right up. �Thoughts?
>>
>> Wild-assed guess: engine flooded with fuel, which had a chance to
>> evaporate?
>
> Hard to say, for me. Tried to do an exact "reinactment" last night.
> But no luck. It wouldn't fail. Will try again. Was kinda sorta
> under the impression that "flooded" applied to carbs, not FI. This
> CRX if DPFI if that helps.

no, "flooded" happens to fi as well.

have you looked at the ecu to see if there are any codes stored? if
it's 16, there's a good chance the problem is the main relay. tegger
has the explanation [and cure] on his excellent website. otherwise,
investigate ell and tegger's suggestions here.

[great car btw - i have a 90 dx.]

--
nomina rutrum rutrum


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, May 2 2010 10:17 am
From: Marty Bose


In article <20100502132105.478@gmail.com>, Kaz Kylheku
<kkylheku@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2010-04-30, Meatman <KevinLee33@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Walked away for NO MORE than 5-10 mins and tried
> > again. Perfect, started right up. Thoughts?
>
> Wild-assed guess: engine flooded with fuel, which had a chance to
> evaporate?

I've had this happen to me if the engine kicked backwards a little
while it stalled. It seemed to be something that the ECU decided was
wrong. If I wait a while it will reset and start just fine, if I was
in a hurry I would just pull the ECU fuse under the hood for about 10
seconds and it starts immediately.

Marty

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TOPIC: 2003 Honda Accord SRS indicator light
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/c6457995b5aff4ee?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 2 2010 7:10 am
From: Tegger


Kaz Kylheku <kkylheku@gmail.com> wrote in news:20100502130139.740
@gmail.com:

> On 2010-04-28, Guy <void@void.com> wrote:
>> they want $103 to read the codes.
>
> I just checked Ebay; OBD II scanners (the kind that plug into a
> laptop's USB port) are going for less than $30.
>
> Charging money to plug in a scanner and read codes is a criminal ripoff.
>
> With just one $103 job, the equipment pays for itself three times over
> again. The ``labor'' is just plugging a cable under your dashboard, and
> pushing a button, about as difficult as using a vacuum cleaner.
>

Most (if not all) places will refund that charge if a problem is found, and
they get the repair work.

Dealerships have to apply such charges to keep themselves from wasting
entire days on "tire-kickers".

--
Tegger


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 2 2010 10:45 pm
From: Elle


On Apr 30, 7:32 pm, Tegger <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:
> Then it would appear that the explosive tensioners are considered part
> of the seat belt assembly.

To me, it appears that dealers disagree on whether the repair is
covered under warranty.

I do not agree that this is black-and-white. I do agree Honda owners
in the U.S. should call Honda (the manufacturer, not the dealer) when
they think something should be covered under warranty but one's local
dealer is refusing to do so.


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