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* Do I really need new brakes? - 3 messages, 3 authors
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* Door ajar circuit / module for 1987 Accord 3Dr LXI - problem fixed. - 1
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TOPIC: Do I really need new brakes?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/ee6125974ce7b78f?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, May 23 2010 10:18 pm
From: remove22@sonic.net (Timothy J. Lee)
In article <d74ec466-5311-43f5-9bbb-df1e05c05393@23g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
<pdsnickels@yahoo.com> wrote:
>This car only has 14,337 miles (city miles) and the brakes seem fine
>and are not making any noise.
City miles do mean more brake use and pad / rotor wear than highway miles.
However, the only way to be sure is to measure the brake pads and compare
the measurements to the wear limits in the service manual.
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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, May 24 2010 2:14 am
From: "A. Nonimus"
On May 20, 8:39 pm, "E. Meyer" <epmeye...@msn.com> wrote:
> On 5/20/10 4:50 PM, in article Xns9D7EB5885B247teg...@208.90.168.18,
OK. Honda recommends it, but my experience
> says they don't vibrate when you change the pads, the wear is acceptable (at
> least 90k miles between pad changes), and I have not experienced a rotor
> destroyed because of a stuck caliper eating off the outer pad. I have
> experienced a stuck caliper and the wear indicator signaled the wear prior
> to any damage.
>
> I do agree that 2mm is time to replace the pads. That's pretty thin.
See - this is why I suspect my Honda Dealer is lying to me. As you
say, "90k miles between pad changes"...
This is exactly what my former-mechanic friend said to me, that no way
I should need brakes at 14k miles.
I guess I won't know until I get someone I can trust to open up the
brakes and show them to me.
Yeah, they have to show them at the Dealer but I figure they just keep
an old one with 2mm laying around so they can use that to show me...
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, May 24 2010 6:56 am
From: Carter Zogby
In article
<d74ec466-5311-43f5-9bbb-df1e05c05393@23g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
pdsnickels@yahoo.com wrote:
> Went to the Honda dealer for an oil change and they told me I need:
> "Replace front brake pads and machine rotors"
>
> Is it standard procedure to machine the rotors when replacing pads?
> Otherwise, why would I need it?
> This car only has 14,337 miles (city miles) and the brakes seem fine
> and are not making any noise.
>
> Is the dealer likely trying to pull a fast one here, or is it possible
> I do need new front brakes and have the rotors machined?
>
> Please advise.
> Thanks!
It's clear from this thread that you do not know much about your vehicle
nor are you mechanically inclined. You also apparently do not trust the
people you have service your car. Unless you find someone you can trust
you are forever screwed.
Get a second opinion at an independent garage. You may also want to get
professional help to overcome your paranoia.
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TOPIC: Door ajar circuit / module for 1987 Accord 3Dr LXI - problem fixed.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/5cb7de1977208212?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, May 24 2010 9:34 am
From: Randy
An interesting experience. 1st I find out my 1987 Accord LXI Hatchback
in one of a handful "just like it". Being one of the last made - they
have a bunch of 1988 "stuff" in them - and you really need a 1988
manual for that "stuff".
As a result - not even the local Honda dealer's 1987 parts system
covers those portions of the car - either.
I'm posting this for others who might have be putting up with that
incessant beep beep beeping - and finding no help in actually fixing
the problem - rather than just disconnecting the beeper (which is
indeed at the rear-view mirror).
Here's what it turned out to be: the second "door switch" in the
driver's door. There is a "door latch" switch in the door jamb - it
has nothing to do with this issue (and was working fine). There is
also a switch in the door locking mechanism inside the door. This is
not documented in any of the 1987 Accord service info - certainly not
on the wiring diagrams, cable routing sheets, etc.
This switch is part of the Automatic Seat Belt retractor tensioning
system - which is really a 1988 "thing" - but as noted - (obviously)
some 1987s wound up with the system as well. The seat belt tension
control "box" is under the passenger seat - and controls the "take-up"
of the seatbelts under certain circumstances. Since extra "stuff" had
to be added to control these automatic belts - Honda also added the
extra seatbelt reminders (upper "console" w/beeper) and the Door Ajar
warning light.
In this case - it was a "sluggish" switch in the internal lock
mechanism that was causing the problem. Oiling the system down
(Hammond Organ light non-gumming oil) fixed the problem.
best to all!
randy
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