Thursday, May 20, 2010

rec.autos.makers.honda - 17 new messages in 3 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* 2003 Honda Accord SRS indicator light - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/c6457995b5aff4ee?hl=en
* '95 Del Sol SRS light - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/e2730d7fb19d7d97?hl=en
* Do I really need new brakes? - 11 messages, 6 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/ee6125974ce7b78f?hl=en

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TOPIC: 2003 Honda Accord SRS indicator light
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/c6457995b5aff4ee?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, May 2 2010 10:45 pm
From: Elle


On Apr 30, 7:32 pm, Tegger <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:
> Then it would appear that the explosive tensioners are considered part
> of the seat belt assembly.

To me, it appears that dealers disagree on whether the repair is
covered under warranty.

I do not agree that this is black-and-white. I do agree Honda owners
in the U.S. should call Honda (the manufacturer, not the dealer) when
they think something should be covered under warranty but one's local
dealer is refusing to do so.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, May 9 2010 7:38 am
From: TomP


Guy wrote:

> If I start my car before I put my seat belt on, my SRS indicator light
> comes on and stays on no matter whether I wear the belt or not. If I
> put my seat belt on first before I start the engine, no indicator
> light (normal status). I called my local Honda dealer and they told
> me that if the indicator light has to do with seat belt tensioners,
> it's under a recall but they want $103 to read the codes. I think it
> will be no charge to me if the codes say seat belt tensioner only.
>
> Does anyone know if I go to Autozone to have them read my codes, can
> their reader tell me if this indicator light has to do with air bags
> vs seat belt tensioners? In other words, will there be a separate
> code for each? I really don't want to spend $103 to read the codes
> nor have I decided if I want to mess with the air bags if that's the
> problem unless it might cause harm if inflated. Any idea what an air
> bag fix might cost (without the code reading fee)? If it matters,
> this is on a 2003 Honda Accord sedan 4 cyl auto.

The problem as you describe has to do with the seat belt buckle
(reporting), not the seat belt retractor/tensioner.
There are 2 inputs to the SRS unit that involve reference voltages. With
the key on, the SRS unit expects to see one voltage high, one voltage low.

If the voltages are both the same, high or low, the srs unit sees it as a
fault.

This problem could be due to damaged wiring or the switch(s) in the buckle
are inoperative. Beverages spilled into the buckle mechanism can cause
the switches to malfunction.

Call Honda Customer Relations and ask if it's covered, worse they can say
is no.


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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, May 10 2010 8:12 am
From: Elle


(See edits below, made after Tom P pointed out it is not the tensioner
and so I realized I had made a post-o.)

Most likely it is the buckle. Google for reading the code yourself on
your Accord. It should be like the following, but maybe not exactly,
so please check with other sources.

http://sites.google.com/site/hondalioness/srs

See also http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2616092&highlight=SRS+Code

My 2003 Civic had the SRS light on. I read the code myself. It turned
out to be [edit: Code 9-3, the seat belt buckle switch]. Most, but it
seems not all, dealers cover this in the U.S. under the lifetime seat
belt warranty on all Hondas. (Apparently some dealers argue the part
does not involve seat belt integrity, and so it is not warrant-able.
Yet other dealers say the whole belt buckle must be replaced to
correct the failed airbag switch problem, so it is warrantable.)

At the site above, I also describe the good experience I had with my
dealer on this.

If Autozone reads the codes, then yes, its reader should say whether
it is the seat belt [edit: buckle switch].

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TOPIC: '95 Del Sol SRS light
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/e2730d7fb19d7d97?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, May 16 2010 6:57 pm
From: gmccx

The light is stuck on and will not reset. I jumpered the plug to cause
it to show the error code (blinks) and it says "Internal SRS unit failure".

Any odds that this is anything _but_ a failed SRS unit?

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, May 18 2010 9:03 pm
From: Dillon Pyron


Thus spake gmccx <noone@notvalid.com> :

>
>The light is stuck on and will not reset. I jumpered the plug to cause
>it to show the error code (blinks) and it says "Internal SRS unit failure"

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