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TOPIC: TOYOTA SEZ IT HAS [another] FIX FOR PEDAL ... DO YOU BELIEVE IT?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.nissan/t/b3778869cfbea966?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 9:38 pm
From: Ashton Crusher
On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:34:52 -0500, clare@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:33:19 -0700, Ashton Crusher <demi@moore.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:20:27 -0500, clare@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:05:24 -0700, Ashton Crusher <demi@moore.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 06:38:11 -0800 (PST), slightly horny
>>>><lilhornie@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Time to buy another BROOM?
>>>>>
>>>>>I kinda think the problem is more technologically related than just an
>>>>>ordinary "pedal."
>>>>>
>>>>>You?
>>>>>
>>>>>----------------------
>>>>>"Toyota tells dealers parts on way to fix pedals"
>>>>>
>>>>>By KEN THOMAS and TOM KRISHER
>>>>>The Associated Press
>>>>>Monday, February 1, 2010; 8:52 AM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>WASHINGTON -- Toyota Motor Corp. said Monday its dealers should get
>>>>>parts to fix a sticky gas pedal problem by the end of this week as the
>>>>>automaker apologized to customers and tried to bring an end to a
>>>>>recall that has affected 4.2 million vehicles worldwide.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Tammy Darvish, a dealer in the Washington, D.C., area, said she
>>>>>expects to get parts Thursday night or Friday morning, and her
>>>>>dealership will begin repairs immediately, staying open around the
>>>>>clock.
>>>>>
>>>>>Darvish said she has set up a 24-hour hotline for her 30,000 Toyota
>>>>>customers and had already begun to schedule appointments for later
>>>>>this week. She estimated it could take about two weeks for all the
>>>>>vehicles to be fixed.
>>>>>
>>>>>"No matter what Toyota does, they always do it right," Darvish said.
>>>>>"They might be a little slow in coming out, but that's because they're
>>>>>diligent."
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>If they "always do it right" they would not have this problem. Nor
>>>>would they have locks that burn up and trap the people inside and burn
>>>>them up too. Or sludged up engines. Or bad head gaskets.
>>>
>>>
>>>EVERYBODY has bad head gaskets. Not a manufacturer in the business
>>>that uses head gaskets hasn't had a problem.
>>>Electrical problems are far from strictly a Toyota problem. More FORDS
>>>have burned from bad electrics than Toyotas - and many more have had
>>>less spectacular electrical failures.
>>>Also engine sludging is not a Toyota Specific problem - or even
>>>Japanese specific - and vehicles serviced by the "extreme conditions"
>>>oil change schedule do NOT SLUDGE, whether Toyota, Honda, or Chrysler.
>>
>>
>>So? No one disputes that except the guy I quoted for his silly
>>statement that they, Toyota, "always do it right". It's rather ironic
>>to make such a claim in a story about something they got so wrong.
> SO WRONG?????
>Are you a mechanic??
>Do you understand AT ALL what is involved in this recall???
> It's so darn close to RIGHT it isn't funny.
>There have only been TWELVE verified cases of the accellerator
>actually sticking from this fault - and the conditions have to be just
>right for it to happen. From confirming the problem to finfing and
>"proving" the solution has been a VERY short time - I'd say they are
>handling it very well.
>They are, again, DOING IT RIGHT.
>
>It's not like it was an "obvious" problem
>
>Same thing with the sludging. If a vehicle is maintained according to
>the applicable schedule, the engine does NOT sludge up.
Wow. You are blind to the irony.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 6:45 am
From: "Mike Hunter"
(Cross posting removed, automatically)
<clare@snyder.on.ca> wrote in message
news:pqmjm59ogjdsdo4ftnpp8gr12lcn6qprq3@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:33:19 -0700, Ashton Crusher <demi@moore.net>
> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:20:27 -0500, clare@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:05:24 -0700, Ashton Crusher <demi@moore.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 06:38:11 -0800 (PST), slightly horny
>>>><lilhornie@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Time to buy another BROOM?
>>>>>
>>>>>I kinda think the problem is more technologically related than just an
>>>>>ordinary "pedal."
>>>>>
>>>>>You?
>>>>>
>>>>>----------------------
>>>>>"Toyota tells dealers parts on way to fix pedals"
>>>>>
>>>>>By KEN THOMAS and TOM KRISHER
>>>>>The Associated Press
>>>>>Monday, February 1, 2010; 8:52 AM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>WASHINGTON -- Toyota Motor Corp. said Monday its dealers should get
>>>>>parts to fix a sticky gas pedal problem by the end of this week as the
>>>>>automaker apologized to customers and tried to bring an end to a
>>>>>recall that has affected 4.2 million vehicles worldwide.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Tammy Darvish, a dealer in the Washington, D.C., area, said she
>>>>>expects to get parts Thursday night or Friday morning, and her
>>>>>dealership will begin repairs immediately, staying open around the
>>>>>clock.
>>>>>
>>>>>Darvish said she has set up a 24-hour hotline for her 30,000 Toyota
>>>>>customers and had already begun to schedule appointments for later
>>>>>this week. She estimated it could take about two weeks for all the
>>>>>vehicles to be fixed.
>>>>>
>>>>>"No matter what Toyota does, they always do it right," Darvish said.
>>>>>"They might be a little slow in coming out, but that's because they're
>>>>>diligent."
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>If they "always do it right" they would not have this problem. Nor
>>>>would they have locks that burn up and trap the people inside and burn
>>>>them up too. Or sludged up engines. Or bad head gaskets.
>>>
>>>
>>>EVERYBODY has bad head gaskets. Not a manufacturer in the business
>>>that uses head gaskets hasn't had a problem.
>>>Electrical problems are far from strictly a Toyota problem. More FORDS
>>>have burned from bad electrics than Toyotas - and many more have had
>>>less spectacular electrical failures.
>>>Also engine sludging is not a Toyota Specific problem - or even
>>>Japanese specific - and vehicles serviced by the "extreme conditions"
>>>oil change schedule do NOT SLUDGE, whether Toyota, Honda, or Chrysler.
>>
>>
>>So? No one disputes that except the guy I quoted for his silly
>>statement that they, Toyota, "always do it right". It's rather ironic
>>to make such a claim in a story about something they got so wrong.
> SO WRONG?????
> Are you a mechanic??
> Do you understand AT ALL what is involved in this recall???
> It's so darn close to RIGHT it isn't funny.
> There have only been TWELVE verified cases of the accellerator
> actually sticking from this fault - and the conditions have to be just
> right for it to happen. From confirming the problem to finfing and
> "proving" the solution has been a VERY short time - I'd say they are
> handling it very well.
> They are, again, DOING IT RIGHT.
>
> It's not like it was an "obvious" problem
>
> Same thing with the sludging. If a vehicle is maintained according to
> the applicable schedule, the engine does NOT sludge up.
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TOPIC: Exclusive Suzuki Swift 2010 review
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.nissan/t/4062b2323334af0b?hl=en
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Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 9:50 am
From: A
Exclusive Suzuki Swift 2010 review
http://carsnetwork.blogspot.com/2010/01/hot-and-exclusive-review-of-suzuki.html
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