Tuesday, December 14, 2010

rec.autos.makers.honda - 5 new messages in 2 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* New Honda being delivered Wednesday - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/a2fd4d4d862b1299?hl=en
* Cold engine at 70Mph - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/a09593521bcb7a5d?hl=en

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TOPIC: New Honda being delivered Wednesday
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/a2fd4d4d862b1299?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 12 2010 1:46 pm
From: Tegger


Tegger <invalid@example.com> wrote in
news:Xns9E4CAA5B7BD07tegger@208.90.168.18:

> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in
> news:elmop-BB8F3D.09583912122010@news.eternal-september.org:
>

>
>
>>
>> It hasn't stopped or even slowed private transactions down here, not
>> one bit.
>
>
>
> Stopped them /dead/ here. Which was just what the dealers were hoping
> for when they asked for that change.
>
>
>

Our tax is 13%, by the way.


--
Tegger


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 13 2010 7:02 pm
From: Tegger


"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in
news:elmop-23A426.23074810122010@news.eternal-september.org:


>
> As for uncomfortable, just those damn headrests alone would keep me
> from buying a Honda today. No, Honda, you don't have to jam them
> forward so far you make my chin touch my chest. And I refuse to
> recline the seatback like a gangsta just to avoid all of that.
>


I think they do that to save money: they get the "safety" of active
headrests without the expense of same, but annoy everybody in the process.

My next car (to be purchased within the next year) will not be a Honda.

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Tegger

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TOPIC: Cold engine at 70Mph
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/a09593521bcb7a5d?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 13 2010 6:45 pm
From: Dillon Pyron


Thus spake dan <dan@nospam.net> :

>It helps to open the bleeder. :)

Oh sure. Some people want the quick and easy way out.

When I was a kid we had to combine hydrogen molecules with free oxygen
radicals before we could fill our stone radiators. :-)

>On 12/12/2010 10:13 AM, Dillon Pyron wrote:
>
>>
>> Once you get the antifreeze out, swapping out the 'stat is easy.
>> Purging the coolant is a pain, at least for me.
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- dillon I am not invalid

An object's desireability to a dog is directly
proportional to its desireability to another dog.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 13 2010 6:52 pm
From: Dillon Pyron


Thus spake Fijoy <tofijoy@gmail.com> :

>On Dec 9, 4:18�pm, Fijoy <tofi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I was driving my 91 Honda Accord on the interstate the other day when
>> it was near freezing outside. I noticed that the engine temperature
>> was near 'C', even after driving at 70Mph for more than 15min! I had
>> to turn the heat all the way up to get a comfortable temperature
>> inside the car. Once I exited the highway and slowed down, the engine
>> temperature began to rise toward half-way between 'C' and 'H', where
>> it usually is.
>>
>> Is the above normal? Is the radiator over-cooling the engine? I am
>> assuming that a cold engine 70Mph is not good for the car.
>>
>> Thanks for any advice.
>>
>> Fijoy
>
>Hi all,
>
>Thanks for the responses.
>
>I am thinking of changing the thermostat myself, but I am a novice. I
>cannot not figure out where the thermostat is, even after a google
>search. Is it on the lower radiator hose, or the upper one? Do I
>absolutely have to drain the cooling system to change it?
>
>Fijoy

The shop manual is your friend. Heck, even Chilton's should get you
through that. I wouldn't advocate trying to rebuild your auto trans
using one, but changint the 'stat should be doable.

Heck, my Honda Fit manual (official) makes it sound easy enough to do
at home.

"Using a chassis lift, raise the vehicle at least three feet.
Disconnect all electrical and fluid lines, remove the hood and, using
an appropriate hoist, lower the enginetransaxle assembly after first
removing the cross member and the tie rods. Then find someone who
knows what the heck they're doing to swear at you for at least ten
minutes and call you an idiot in four or more languages, including
Japanese"

Come one, I just had to. If you read the comic strip "Pearls Before
Swine" you can appreciate the long windup.
--

- dillon I am not invalid

An object's desireability to a dog is directly
proportional to its desireability to another dog.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 13 2010 6:59 pm
From: Tegger


Fijoy <tofijoy@gmail.com> wrote in news:cbe18de5-3292-4013-b59f-
41d9018e0e86@t35g2000yqj.googlegroups.com:


>
> I am thinking of changing the thermostat myself, but I am a novice. I
> cannot not figure out where the thermostat is, even after a google
> search. Is it on the lower radiator hose, or the upper one? Do I
> absolutely have to drain the cooling system to change it?
>


See the rad hose that comes out of the /bottom/ of the rad? Follow it up
until it ends. That's where the thermostat is.

Yes, you need to drain at least some coolant.

You should not be attempting this project unless you have some kind of shop
manual, and some kind of mechanical aptitude.


--
Tegger


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