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* EUROMERC Nick Mercedes aka Nick Johns ftrom the MB Forums - Obsessed stalker
and Kook - 1 messages, 1 author
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* U.S. study finds driver error in most Toyota accidents - 2 messages, 2
authors
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TOPIC: EUROMERC Nick Mercedes aka Nick Johns ftrom the MB Forums - Obsessed
stalker and Kook
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos/t/2a6a4b60f900e77f?hl=en
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Date: Sun, Aug 1 2010 9:35 am
From: Sarah Czepiel < ninety7gt@cox.net>
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 15:55:13 +0100, "nick mercedes"
<pizzalovingcriminal@allstar.gg> wrote:
>Note her orange car on her real husband's drive:
>
>http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=59+Cynthia+Drive,+North+Kingstown,+RI,+United+States&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=28.943777,56.162109&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=59+Cynthia+Dr,+North+Kingstown,+Washington,+Rhode+Island+02852&ll=41.611103,-71.437494&spn=0.000416,0.000857&t=h&z=20
What's this you obsessed net stalker ko0k?
There's absolutely not one shred of evidence who that orange car
belongs to...
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TOPIC: U.S. study finds driver error in most Toyota accidents
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Date: Tues, Aug 10 2010 8:44 pm
From: "C. E. White"
U.S. study finds driver error in most Toyota accidents
Automaker acknowledges other research, independent corroboration is needed
Staff and wire reports August 10, 2010 - 4:01 pm ET
UPDATED: 8/10/10 6:56 p.m. ET
WASHINGTON -- Brakes weren't applied by drivers of Toyota vehicles in at
least 35 of 58 crashes blamed on unintended acceleration, U.S. auto-safety
regulators said after studying data recorders.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration also saw no evidence of
electronics-related causes for the accidents in reviewing the vehicle
recorders, known as black boxes, the agency said today in a report to
lawmakers.
The preliminary findings bolster Toyota's contentions that there's no
evidence of flaws in electronic controls on its vehicles and that motorists
in some cases confused the accelerator and brake pedals.
But Toyota spokesman Brian Lyons acknowledged this evening that the
company's black boxes have limited capability because they typically produce
data only when the airbag is activated.
"The data should also be independently corroborated, e.g., through physical
evidence, other research, etc." he said in an e-mail to Automotive News.
Toyota's black boxes are built into the airbag sensor and usually begin
recording only when the airbag is deployed, Lyons said.
Since November, Toyota has recalled 9.4 million vehicles worldwide,
including 7.5 million in the U.S., for acceleration problems involving floor
mats and sticky pedals, Lyons said.
"At this early point in its investigation, NHTSA officials have drawn no
conclusions about additional causes of unintended acceleration in Toyotas
beyond the two defects already known -- pedal entrapment and sticking gas
pedals," the agency said in the report provided for a briefing to lawmakers
in Washington.
In addition to the 60 percent of cases where brakes weren't used, NHTSA
cited accidents in which the brakes were applied partially or the data
recorder failed.
Toyota has conducted more than 4,000 on-site vehicle inspections, and said
today it has not found electronic throttle controls to be a cause of
unintended acceleration.
"Toyota's own vehicle evaluations have confirmed that the remedies it
developed for sticking accelerator pedal and potential accelerator pedal
entrapment by an unsecured or incompatible floor mat are effective," the
company said.
"We have also confirmed several different causes for unintended acceleration
reports, including pedal entrapment by floor mats, pedal misapplication and
vehicle functions where a slight increase in engine speed is normal, such as
engine idle up from a cold start or air conditioning loads."
In many cases studied by federal regulators, the driver made an allegation
of unintended acceleration.
Questions about data
NHTSA said its study was limited to post 2007 vehicles because most Toyota
models made before 2007 did not have black boxes that stored pre-crash data
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