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TOPIC: Oil Change Frequency
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 4 2010 4:41 am
From: ACAR
On Jul 26, 3:34 pm, Vincent Parry <vi...@darkpassage.net> wrote:
> On 7/26/10 12:30 PM, ACAR wrote:
>
snip
> So woudja', huh?
So if Honda is so secure with their algorithm, why do they keep it a
secret?
You think a single algorithm can take into account the entire range of
possible environmental conditions? Or do you think it can account for
"normal" conditions?
Like it or not, Honda is in the business of selling you a car. The
more often you buy one, the more profit they make.
There's tons of oil analysis data available online at bobistheoilguy.
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 4 2010 5:22 am
From: "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
In article
<b03db917-b234-43e7-9dc9-b25fd63c4b56@14g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
ACAR <dimndsonmywndshld@yahoo.com> wrote:
> So if Honda is so secure with their algorithm, why do they keep it a
> secret?
You've never owned a business or created anything of value, have you.
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 4 2010 7:44 am
From: jim beam
On 08/04/2010 04:41 AM, ACAR wrote:
> On Jul 26, 3:34�pm, Vincent Parry<vi...@darkpassage.net> wrote:
>> On 7/26/10 12:30 PM, ACAR wrote:
>>
> snip
>> So woudja', huh?
>
> So if Honda is so secure with their algorithm, why do they keep it a
> secret?
it's not - that kind of info is all over the web. it's based on oil
temp and number of revolutions.
now what are you going to do with that info?
> You think a single algorithm can take into account the entire range of
> possible environmental conditions? Or do you think it can account for
> "normal" conditions?
it's a reasonable approximation. if you want to improve on it, you need
on-board opacity, t.b.n. and spectral analysis, and i don't think anyone
does that on road vehicles yet. heck, hardly anyone measures oil level,
and that's the easy one.
>
> Like it or not, Honda is in the business of selling you a car. The
> more often you buy one, the more profit they make.
>
> There's tons of oil analysis data available online at bobistheoilguy.
really? why don't you appear to have read any of it?
--
nomina rutrum rutrum
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 4 2010 7:54 am
From: "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
In article <SbOdndBYp8Ul4cTRnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
jim beam <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> > So if Honda is so secure with their algorithm, why do they keep it a
> > secret?
>
> it's not - that kind of info is all over the web. it's based on oil
> temp and number of revolutions.
and outside temperature, no doubt.
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 4 2010 8:08 am
From: jim beam
On 08/04/2010 07:54 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article<SbOdndBYp8Ul4cTRnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
> jim beam<me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>> So if Honda is so secure with their algorithm, why do they keep it a
>>> secret?
>>
>> it's not - that kind of info is all over the web. it's based on oil
>> temp and number of revolutions.
>
> and outside temperature, no doubt.
don't think so. it's oil temp that matters. outside temp influences
initial, and maybe the high end of summer in vegas, but oil temp is
pretty narrow-band - the rest of the cooling system sees to that.
--
nomina rutrum rutrum
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 4 2010 5:37 pm
From: ACAR
On Aug 4, 10:44 am, jim beam <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> On 08/04/2010 04:41 AM, ACAR wrote:
>
> it's not - that kind of info is all over the web. it's based on oil
> temp and number of revolutions.
I know Hondas have a water temperature switch but I hadn't heard they
also have an oil temperature sensor or switch.
>
> now what are you going to do with that info?
well first I'm gonna question whether Honda measures oil temp.
which I don't think they do.
then I'm going to suggest that some other factors (like driving on
dirt roads or sustained high RPM operation) ought to be considered.
>
> > You think a single algorithm can take into account the entire range of
> > possible environmental conditions? Or do you think it can account for
> > "normal" conditions?
>
> it's a reasonable approximation.
reasonable approximation? you're guessing. Honda should publish the
algorithm or at least tell us what variables are used. Elmo thinks
this is some sort of valuable trade secret whereas Honda is probably
obscuring an overly simplistic design. It's an idiot light, nothing
more.
>
> > Like it or not, Honda is in the business of selling you a car. The
> > more often you buy one, the more profit they make.
>
> > There's tons of oil analysis data available online at bobistheoilguy.
>
> really? why don't you appear to have read any of it?
>
enough to know that a wide range of environmental and operating
variables leads to a wide range of engine oil lifespans.
for the average driver, who NEVER checks their oil level between oil
changes, Toyota's 5000 mile interval is probably a safer long-term bet
than Honda's minder. in a Honda, a driver could go a year between
service whereas Toyota's system is likely to bring them in every 6
months.
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TOPIC: 2006 CRV EX 4WD: Chirping sound from left wheel over bumps
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 4 2010 12:26 pm
From: Zolan D'Arth
Tegger wrote:
> Rich Weed <weed_richard@NOhotmSPAMail.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9DC3E62096BDAijliJOIjOIjo5tr9trp3@69.16.186.8:
>
>> Hi, 52,000 miles. This became obvious yesterday. It may have been
>> happening for a while because it literally sounds like a bird
>> chirping. But, it got louder in the past day or so if it was already
>> happening. I did wack a recessed manhole cover the night before with
>> the left wheel, but the impact didn't seem excessive enough to be
>> concerned about.
>>
>> It will happen going 5mph over, say, pothole patches or driveway
>> entrances, that kind of thing. Any ideas?
>>
>> The more I read, the more I keep seeing lower ball joint...which is
>> why I'm driving a lot slower :) I do have an appt with the dealer
>> (this isn't under warranty).
>>
>> If ball joint is the diagnosis, can just the one knuckle be replaced
>> or do they have to be replaced in pairs?
>>
>> Know any good independent shops for that around Albany, NY?
>>
>
>
>
> Balljoints can be replaced in the same knuckle. Some knuckles are
> constructed so as to allow just one replacement. Yours might be one of
> those, I'm not sure. Nobody replaces entire knuckles because a balljoint
> needs to be changed unless the knuckle is the "one time" type, and the "one
> time" has already passed.
>
> It is not absolutely necessary to replace balljoints in pairs, but it's a
> good idea: if one is going, the others won't be far behind.
>
> But I don't think the noise you're hearing is the balljoint. It could be
> the spring working against its seat, a bent damper piston, something like
> that.
>
> You're better off going to the dealer for this unless a /very/
> knowledgeable independent can be found.
>
My 2003 CRV also has a hiping sound, like trapped budgie!
I don't think its the wheel though, and have not isolated if its only
over bumps, sounds like it comes from somwhere inside the cab or engine bay
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