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* Honda and their legendary failing transmissions (was Re: Fluid change
necessary?) - 5 messages, 3 authors
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* Battery Problem - 2 messages, 2 authors
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TOPIC: Honda and their legendary failing transmissions (was Re: Fluid change
necessary?)
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/d7ab5908150d6a91?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 13 2010 8:39 pm
From: Grumpy AuContraire
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <MPG.26cf9df4802af0b398a2d9@208.90.168.18>,
> Dave Garrett <dave@compassnet.com> wrote:
>
>> In my experience, a firm but polite letter directly to American Honda's
>> customer service division from someone who's owned multiple Hondas
>> exclusively over a period of many years is likely to carry more weight
>> than a request for a goodwill repair from a dealer.
>
> You just said pretty much what I just heard this afternoon from a friend
> of mine who is now a service writer at an Acura dealer, and who was my
> service writer at this dealership for many years.
>
> Absent the dealership general manager getting as far as I want, that
> will absolutely be the next step. Thanks.
If worse comes to worse... You might consider a JDM replacement.
JT
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 4:27 am
From: "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
In article <y76dnXDnZYuHn_vRnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@giganews.com>,
Grumpy AuContraire <GrumpyOne@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote:
> > Absent the dealership general manager getting as far as I want, that
> > will absolutely be the next step. Thanks.
>
>
> If worse comes to worse... You might consider a JDM replacement.
????
Link?
Inquiring minds and all that...
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 4:28 am
From: "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
In article <y76dnXHnZYvJnPvRnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@giganews.com>,
Grumpy AuContraire <GrumpyOne@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote:
> > There is exactly zero reason a single owner Honda family van, driven
> > around town by a stay at home mom at the rate of around 8000 miles/year,
> > should have a complete transmission failure at 73,000 miles.
>
> That's about the same as for 1990(s) era F*rd Exploders. To have this
> happen on a Honda is just plain wrong.
And I intend to pursue it through Honda as such. Honda needs to
acknowledge the shame and do the Japanese thing and make it right.
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 3:45 pm
From: "Paul"
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-2CC95D.08322213082010@reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com...
> In article <Xns9DD2C0868D2D4tegger@208.90.168.18>,
> Tegger <invalid@example.com> wrote:
>
>> Brake and tranny-fluid changes are NEVER a bad idea.
>
> wish I'd followed a trans fluid change schedule that was MUCH more
> aggressive than what Honda documented for my 02 Odyssey. I'm now facing
> a transmission replacement.
>
> There is exactly zero reason a single owner Honda family van, driven
> around town by a stay at home mom at the rate of around 8000 miles/year,
> should have a complete transmission failure at 73,000 miles.
>
> Honda, in their post-goodwill days, seems to think this isn't
> unreasonable at all. But they'll go ahead and accommodate me to the
> tune of 25% of the cost, leaving me with an out of pocket cost of $3400
> plus tax. Nice, Honda. You stay classy. <snort>
>
In May of last year, the transmission on my 2000 Accord (serviced within
Honda's requirements) quit at about 104K miles. It was just within the
mileage of the warranty extension, but well beyond the time limit. My local
dealership's first offer was $3,400 for a remanufactured transmission. I
didn't like the sound of that, and spent about two weeks going back and
forth with Honda customer service. It was a huge pain, but I eventually got
them down to about $1,900, and there's a three-year warranty on the "new"
unit. If you keep after them you might do a little better.
We also have a 2001 Odyssey, and I am concerned that its transmission will
fail too, even though it has less than 90K miles on it now.
Good luck.
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== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 4:44 pm
From: "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
In article <i476am$2q9u$1@adenine.netfront.net>,
"Paul" <ptmueller78@gmail.com> wrote:
> We also have a 2001 Odyssey, and I am concerned that its transmission will
> fail too, even though it has less than 90K miles on it now.
My brother had a 2000 Odyssey that he drove for right up to 100K miles
before he traded it in, and he had no problems.
Go figure.
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TOPIC: Battery Problem
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/74757608d84317e9?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 3:28 am
From: "Tinkerer"
I have a 2006 diesel CRV CDTI. We left it in the garage for three weeks
with all doors locked and deadlocked via the remote. When we went to use
it the battery was flat although it did unlock OK. The symptoms manifested
themselves in the dash lights flashing like a demented Christmas Tree when
the power was turned on and the usual clicking from the solenoid when
turning the key to the start position. Using jump leads the vehicle
started fine and, after I charged the battery overnight, it has been OK
since.
I do not know what drain is on the battery when the vehicle is locked.
Presumably some usage by the radio (including anti-theft device) and
computer. I do not know whether this model has an alarm fitted. After
the incident I checked thoroughly and nothing had been left switched on.
My question is should the battery have gone flat after the vehicle was
standing locked for three weeks or am I looking at a dying battery. Four
years and 52K miles seems a short life for a battery considering that I have
just replaced the original on my Peugeot 406 after eleven years and 132K
miles.
Any thoughts please?
--
Tinkerer
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 6:12 pm
From: J.L.Hemmer
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:28:42 +0100, "Tinkerer"
<invalidaddress@invalidaddress.invalid> wrote:
Four
>years and 52K miles seems a short life for a battery considering that I have
>just replaced the original on my Peugeot 406 after eleven years and 132K
>miles.
>
>Any thoughts please?
Four years?! I live in a hot climate. Four years is about the MAX I
expect out of a battery. My wife's '97 Altima (traded in on an 08
Civic) chewed up a battery every 18 months or so. Everything was
checked (many times) and no problems ever found. The only answer was
that the heat and possible added heat from placement in the engine
compartment was the 'killer'.
I generally don't trust batteries after about three years. However,
I'm sure others here will have their own opinions.
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