Wednesday, January 12, 2011

alt.autos.nissan - 14 new messages in 3 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Consumer Reports: No to Chevy SUV, Ford crossovers, MyFord Touch - 7
messages, 6 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.nissan/t/c904e51c1dd93e99?hl=en
* Irwell is correct. Manual transmissions are best. - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.nissan/t/9e13ce7644212876?hl=en
* 350Z vs 370Z - Changes? - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.nissan/t/751162978c25bcbf?hl=en

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TOPIC: Consumer Reports: No to Chevy SUV, Ford crossovers, MyFord Touch
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.nissan/t/c904e51c1dd93e99?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 10 2011 11:06 pm
From: Ashton Crusher


On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 22:34:00 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski"
<esp@snetnospam.net> wrote:

>?
><forbeswinslow@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:Xns9E697E1B1D42forbeswinslowcom@69.16.185.247...
>>
>> Fwd will work way better in snow then a RWD. FWD pulls you through snow
>> while RWD pushs you into. it. The biggest problem with RWD is generally
>> the
>> rear of a vehicle isd lighter thus less traction.
>>
>
>Don't bet on it. In some situations RWD will work better and I've seen a
>video of a big Ford LTD go up a snow covered hill right past a FWD Taurus
>that was slipping. Put a couple of concrete blocks in the trunk and the
>differences get more in favor of the RWD.
>
>I was told by a GM exec the main reason they went to FWD car is they can be
>built for $50 less.


I used to drive in snow all the time and always in large RWD cars with
V8. Never had a problem but I passed many people who did have
problems. The main thing you need to drive in snow is the skill to do
so, which certainly can be learned, as well as familiarity with what
you are driving. In some situations RWD is better and in some FWD is
better and in most all, 4x4 is better but it will still be controlled
a lot by the driver skill. Many drivers give up their FWD advantage
by driving stupider and/or faster.


== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 11 2011 2:46 am
From: Fred


Ashton Crusher wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 22:34:00 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski"
> <esp@snetnospam.net> wrote:
>
>> ?
>> <forbeswinslow@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9E697E1B1D42forbeswinslowcom@69.16.185.247...
>>>
>>> Fwd will work way better in snow then a RWD. FWD pulls you through snow
>>> while RWD pushs you into. it. The biggest problem with RWD is generally
>>> the
>>> rear of a vehicle isd lighter thus less traction.
>>>
>>
>> Don't bet on it. In some situations RWD will work better and I've seen a
>> video of a big Ford LTD go up a snow covered hill right past a FWD Taurus
>> that was slipping. Put a couple of concrete blocks in the trunk and the
>> differences get more in favor of the RWD.
>>
>> I was told by a GM exec the main reason they went to FWD car is they can be
>> built for $50 less.
>
>
> I used to drive in snow all the time and always in large RWD cars with
> V8. Never had a problem but I passed many people who did have
> problems. The main thing you need to drive in snow is the skill to do
> so, which certainly can be learned, as well as familiarity with what
> you are driving. In some situations RWD is better and in some FWD is
> better and in most all, 4x4 is better but it will still be controlled
> a lot by the driver skill. Many drivers give up their FWD advantage
> by driving stupider and/or faster.

My old mustang had great traction with 2 cement bags over the rear axle
in the winter.


== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 11 2011 9:07 am
From: Irwell


On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 05:46:56 -0500, Fred wrote:

> Ashton Crusher wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 22:34:00 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski"
>> <esp@snetnospam.net> wrote:
>>
>>> ?
>>> <forbeswinslow@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9E697E1B1D42forbeswinslowcom@69.16.185.247...
>>>>
>>>> Fwd will work way better in snow then a RWD. FWD pulls you through snow
>>>> while RWD pushs you into. it. The biggest problem with RWD is generally
>>>> the
>>>> rear of a vehicle isd lighter thus less traction.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Don't bet on it. In some situations RWD will work better and I've seen a
>>> video of a big Ford LTD go up a snow covered hill right past a FWD Taurus
>>> that was slipping. Put a couple of concrete blocks in the trunk and the
>>> differences get more in favor of the RWD.
>>>
>>> I was told by a GM exec the main reason they went to FWD car is they can be
>>> built for $50 less.
>>
>>
>> I used to drive in snow all the time and always in large RWD cars with
>> V8. Never had a problem but I passed many people who did have
>> problems. The main thing you need to drive in snow is the skill to do
>> so, which certainly can be learned, as well as familiarity with what
>> you are driving. In some situations RWD is better and in some FWD is
>> better and in most all, 4x4 is better but it will still be controlled
>> a lot by the driver skill. Many drivers give up their FWD advantage
>> by driving stupider and/or faster.
>
> My old mustang had great traction with 2 cement bags over the rear axle
> in the winter.

Doesn't the engine weight on a FWD count?


== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 11 2011 9:47 am
From: forbeswinslow@gmail.com

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