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* Deceptive Car Names Investigated - 7 messages, 6 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.nissan/t/d65ac75bdbab44ba?hl=en
* Wheel Alignment - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.nissan/t/1185710106dad56c?hl=en

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TOPIC: Deceptive Car Names Investigated
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.nissan/t/d65ac75bdbab44ba?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 30 2010 10:17 pm
From: Joe Pfeiffer


necromancer
<Zidane's_Last_Red_Card@worldofnecromancer_no_spam_no_way.org> writes:

> On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 19:22:10 -0500, Comments4u
> <comments4u@nospam.mindspring.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Consumer anger, always shifting, has found a new target. The banking
>>industry and BP are breathing easier as consumer have returned to their
>>most consistently selected targer over the years, automakers. As a result
>>of consumer complaints, the US government is investigating allegations of
>>deceptive car naming practices.
>
>
> http://worldofnecromancer.org/pics/troll-o-meter.html

Seems like this was pretty clearly a deliberate parody, not a real troll.
--
As we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should
be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours;
and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin)


== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 31 2010 5:23 am
From: "DAS"


<GRIN>

Happy Motoring in 2011!

DAS
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"Comments4u" <comments4u@nospam.mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> Consumer anger, always shifting, has found a new target. The banking
> industry and BP are breathing easier as consumer have returned to their
> most consistently selected targer over the years, automakers. As a result
> of consumer complaints, the US government is investigating allegations of
> deceptive car naming practices.
>
> The initial complaint was made by John Magoo. Mr. Magoo claims he was
> searching for the best car on the market, and decided that based on its
> name, the Nissan Altima (obviously a play on the word "ultimate") must be
> the best. He was highly chagrined to learn after purchase the Altima
> isn't
> even the best Nissan, as Nissan sells another model called the Maxima.
> But
> he turned to the government after the dealer dismissively told him "you
> must be blind".
>
> Ford dodged charges of deception with the name Mustang, stating that while
> it isn't a horse, it has horsepower under the hood, but is in trouble with
> the Focus. "No car focuses light" said US Justice Departement spokesman
> Justdon T Getit. "They really need to rename it the Ford Diffuse."
>
> Almost all names used by Chrysler have been judged deceptive. But the
> government applied the no harm, no foul policy. Chrysler vehicles just
> sit
> on dealers lots. The government has been uable to location anyone who
> actually bought one.
>
> Perhaps the most happy of all automakers is Toyota, which has had plenty
> of
> problems with both consumers and the government over the past few years.
> Not only did the did the US government give Toyota names a clean bill of
> health, they complimented Toyota for its honesty.
>
> Toyota uses seeming concocted and meaningless names such as Camry, Celica,
> Corolla, and Prius. But unknown to most, those words have meanings in
> other languages. Camry, in Talagog, means "runaway car" and Celica, in
> Swahili, means "wadded up floor mat jams accellerator".


== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 31 2010 7:26 am
From: sctvguy1


On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 19:27:16 -0800, ChrisCoaster wrote:

Yeah, what happened to "Model A/B" or "80", "60"(from the engine's HP).


== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 31 2010 10:10 am
From: GM homepc


On 12/30/2010 6:22 PM, Comments4u wrote:
> Toyota uses seeming concocted and meaningless names such as Camry, Celica,
> Corolla, and Prius. But unknown to most, those words have meanings in
> other languages. Camry, in Talagog, means "runaway car" and Celica, in
> Swahili, means "wadded up floor mat jams accellerator".
Corolla is the name given to the blossom of a flower. Tercel is a small
hawk.


== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 31 2010 11:53 am
From: edward ohare


On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 15:26:45 GMT, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net>
wrote:

>On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 19:27:16 -0800, ChrisCoaster wrote:
>
>Yeah, what happened to "Model A/B" or "80", "60"(from the engine's HP).

Yea, that's fine for engineering types or those who want to feel
special because they know the semi-secret code, like Volvo's old 242,
244, 264, etc, Why, even the world's militaries properly market their
products by giving them names.

What sounds better? F/A 18 or Hornet? In fact, they were doing it 70
years ago.

British Hurricanes and Spitfires, US Wildcats and Thunderbolts.

Well, the Germans didn't name their planes. They used things like
Bf109, Me262, etc. Surely not why they lost, but something Mercedes
and BMW ought to think about.


== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 31 2010 12:00 pm
From: GM homepc


On 12/31/2010 12:10 PM, GM homepc wrote:
> On 12/30/2010 6:22 PM, Comments4u wrote:
>> Toyota uses seeming concocted and meaningless names such as Camry,
>> Celica,
>> Corolla, and Prius. But unknown to most, those words have meanings in
>> other languages. Camry, in Talagog, means "runaway car" and Celica, in
>> Swahili, means "wadded up floor mat jams accellerator".
> Corolla is the name given to the blossom of a flower. Tercel is a
> small hawk.
prius - Latin, meaning: before, formerely.

The name "Camry" is an Anglicized
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglicisation> phonetic transcription of
the Japanese word /kanmuri/ (冠, かんむり), meaning crown

Celica is ultimately derived from the Latin word coelica meaning
"heavenly" or "celestial"

You have to admit, Toyota is very creative when it comes to naming their
cars.


== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 31 2010 12:19 pm
From: Wes


On 31/12/2010 4:00 PM, GM homepc wrote:
> On 12/31/2010 12:10 PM, GM homepc wrote:
>> On 12/30/2010 6:22 PM, Comments4u wrote:
>>> Toyota uses seeming concocted and meaningless names such as Camry,
>>> Celica,
>>> Corolla, and Prius. But unknown to most, those words have meanings in
>>> other languages. Camry, in Talagog, means "runaway car" and Celica, in
>>> Swahili, means "wadded up floor mat jams accellerator".
>> Corolla is the name given to the blossom of a flower. Tercel is a
>> small hawk.
> prius - Latin, meaning: before, formerely.
>
> The name "Camry" is an Anglicized
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglicisation> phonetic transcription of
> the Japanese word /kanmuri/ (冠, かんむり), meaning crown
>
> Celica is ultimately derived from the Latin word coelica meaning
> "heavenly" or "celestial"
>
>
>
> You have to admit, Toyota is very creative when it comes to naming their
> cars.
>
>

Like "Land Cruiser", "Pickup Truck" and "Toyota Van"? I guess the really
creative guys were off sick when they brain stormed those deeply
meaningful monikers.... :-)

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TOPIC: Wheel Alignment
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 31 2010 4:16 pm
From: nucleus


2009 Versa has 33k miles, tires are "cupped". Do they NOT
do wheel alignment at factory or dealer now???


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