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TOPIC: Latest Mis-Leading Tundra Commercial
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos/t/e707915212a12b48?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 28 2009 2:29 pm
From: "I'm Right"
That is odd when I drive I see 30+ year old Chevy, GMC, Ford and a Dodge
once in a while.
Chevy PU's from 73-87 are everywhere, the 88-98 are too as well as the newr
chevys
I see 80-86 Fords, 87-97 fords and up. Dodges are mostly 94 and up, with a
few older 88-ish with a cummins.
I do see a few 89-94 Toy PU. The truck they should have kept building.
I see a few Pre-Ranger Mazda PU
But very few nissans.
--
I'm Right, U R Wrong!
"M. Balmer" <boogerpicker@wazoo.net> wrote in message
news:TBuDm.1340$OY2.1255@newsfe22.iad...
> the oddity is finding very many eight to ten year old F150's running the
> roads
>
>
> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2@lycos,com> wrote in message
> news:4addcb85$0$12271$ce5e7886@news-radius.ptd.net...
>> Really? If anyone actually wanted a Tundra they could have had their
>> pick at the Manheim Auto Auctions for as low as $25,000 just last month.
>>
>> I don't know were you live but I'm sure if you look around and you will
>> see plenty of twenty year old F150's still running on the roadways. One
>> old Tundra is an oddity ;)
>>
>>
>> "SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4addc5ba$0$1632$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>>> C. E. White wrote:
>>>> Has anyone notice the snap shot in the new Tundra Commercial? In the
>>>> commercial a contractor talks about when he started out 7 years ago he
>>>> needed a dependable truck and bought a Tundra (this in itself is
>>>> misleading - I doubt if 1 in a 100 contractor considered a Tunda in
>>>> 2002).
>>>
>>> The only contractor I've used had a Tundra of that era. He still has it
>>> with nearly 300K miles on it. His feeling is that it's better to spend a
>>> little more for a truck that will not need replacing every few years,
>>> but it's true that the Tundra cost more than your standard Ford, Chevy,
>>> or Dodge truck.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 29 2009 1:22 pm
From: SMS
Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
> DETROIT (AP) — General Motors' (GM) U.S. sales plunged 21.3% in June and
> Ford (F) dropped 8.1% while Toyota (TM) reported a 10.2% sales surge
> compared with a year ago.
> Light-truck sales were up 11.9%, led by the redesigned Tundra full-size
> pickup.
> "Tundra really hit its stride this month, posting a record sales pace," Jim
> Lentz, executive vice president of Toyota's U.S. division, said in a
> statement. "In a short five months, the new truck's earned its stripes with
> both loyal Toyota owners and those new to the brand."
The Tundra has always been a favorite of contractors and those that use
their trucks for actual work and not just farting around.
Last week I was at In 'N Out and parked between an Ford crew cab and a
Tundra crew cab. The Tundra was a few years old with steel racks
carrying 2x4's and PVC, a tool box in the bed, and a big old vise on the
bumper. Three construction workers got into it as I got out of my car.
The Ford crew cab had two child seats in the back, and a mom was getting
her two toddlers out of the back.
The above scenario is very typical. The Ford is a passenger car
replacement for those that have occasional need for a truck for towing a
boat or trailer, or picking up gardening stuff from the home improvement
store. Heck, if I were going to buy a Ford, I'd buy one of their trucks
as well. The Tundra customer is buying a truck because they need a
reliable work vehicle, not a passenger car.
Oh, and as someone pointed out in a previous post, the Tundra has higher
domestic content.
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 29 2009 1:59 pm
From: "C. E. White"
"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> The biggest problem with the Tundra is that not enough buyers are willing
> to pay premium for toughness or longevity.
When I was pricing trucks last February, the Tundras were heavily
discounted. I actually paid more for an F150 than I was qouted for a Tundra
with similar equipment (smaller V8, Access Cab). One trip down a rough road
convinced me the Tundra was a no go. Try running one over a few bumps with
the tailgate down and you wouldn't want one either. It was painfully obvious
the Tundra was the inferior truck. Toyota builds some fine vehicle. The
Tundra isn't one of them. I probably would be able to get buy with a Tundra,
but I prefer something that is overbuilt to something that is just good
enough to get buy. A Tundra wouldn't last some farmers I know a year. The
frame is too weak, the sheet metal to timmy. And given Toyota mediocre
reliabilty record of late and high Toyota repair prices, I couldn't see
taking a chance on a Tundra with my money.
Ed.
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 29 2009 3:10 pm
From: dbu`
In article <pfSdnUwnF6u2n3fXnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
"C. E. White" <cewhite3remove@mindspring.com> wrote:
> "SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
> news:4ae5c972$0$1603$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> > The biggest problem with the Tundra is that not enough buyers are willing
> > to pay premium for toughness or longevity.
>
> When I was pricing trucks last February, the Tundras were heavily
> discounted. I actually paid more for an F150 than I was qouted for a Tundra
> with similar equipment (smaller V8, Access Cab). One trip down a rough road
> convinced me the Tundra was a no go. Try running one over a few bumps with
> the tailgate down and you wouldn't want one either. It was painfully obvious
> the Tundra was the inferior truck. Toyota builds some fine vehicle. The
> Tundra isn't one of them. I probably would be able to get buy with a Tundra,
> but I prefer something that is overbuilt to something that is just good
> enough to get buy. A Tundra wouldn't last some farmers I know a year. The
> frame is too weak, the sheet metal to timmy. And given Toyota mediocre
> reliabilty record of late and high Toyota repair prices, I couldn't see
> taking a chance on a Tundra with my money.
>
> Ed.
I was at my Toyota dealer today getting my Sienna serviced, oil change.
They had a demo board set up showing the difference between the Tundra,
F150, Dodge PU, Chev PU and Nissan, showing the tie rod, brake, frame
member. The Tundra seemed to have the most heavy duty components
compared with the rest. The tie rod and brake disk assy seemed to be
the two that stuck out the most. Maybe the Tundra is a pretty good
truck after all.
The 2010 Prius is a mighty impressive vehicle too. It might be in my
future sights a couple years down the road.
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== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 29 2009 6:45 pm
From: someone@some.domain (someone@some.domain)
In article <pfSdnUwnF6u2n3fXnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@earthlink.com>, "C. E. White" <cewhite3remove@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
>news:4ae5c972$0$1603$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>> The biggest problem with the Tundra is that not enough buyers are willing
>> to pay premium for toughness or longevity.
>
>When I was pricing trucks last February, the Tundras were heavily
>discounted. I actually paid more for an F150 than I was qouted for a Tundra
>with similar equipment (smaller V8, Access Cab). One trip down a rough road
>convinced me the Tundra was a no go. Try running one over a few bumps with
>the tailgate down and you wouldn't want one either. It was painfully obvious
>the Tundra was the inferior truck. Toyota builds some fine vehicle. The
>Tundra isn't one of them. I probably would be able to get buy with a Tundra,
>but I prefer something that is overbuilt to something that is just good
>enough to get buy. A Tundra wouldn't last some farmers I know a year. The
>frame is too weak, the sheet metal to timmy. And given Toyota mediocre
>reliabilty record of late and high Toyota repair prices, I couldn't see
>taking a chance on a Tundra with my money.
>
>Ed.
>
the sheet metal is timmy? what about lassie, too?
getting buy? you mean by?
(i don't proofread either.)
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