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TOPIC: Latest Mis-Leading Tundra Commercial
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos/t/e707915212a12b48?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 26 2009 9:10 pm
From: john
Tundra is for weekend parenting.
On Oct 26, 8:25 am, Big Endian <5...@hex.com.invalid> wrote:
> the tundra is for urban cowboys. F-series is for real work.
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 27 2009 6:52 am
From: "C. E. White"
"M. Balmer" <boogerpicker@wazoo.net> wrote in message
news:FftFm.44108$eF1.31407@newsfe24.iad...
> You problem is so typical of the people who engage in similar
> diatribes. Yeah your 20 year old Ford may be great for hauling
> 15,000 pounds of hot horse shit around but there are other uses for
> trucks aren't there? I'd like to see your 20 year old Ford try to
> shoehorn itself down (or up) some of the mountain goat trails we
> have here in AZ. I can tell you right now your 20 year old Ford
> wouldn't get ten feet down half of them. Too wide. Too tall. Too
> heavy. Fine for hauling all that horse shit but not a capable
> offroad vehicle.
Duh, what are trucks for if not for hauling? For me personally,
turning some beat to crap Tacoma into a rock crawler is a waste of
time and money. Seems like a good way to ruin a truck to me.
And you don't want to get me started on jerks who use their cool off
road play toys to tear up other peoples land. I assume you are
crawling over rocks on public land where it is permitted and I could
care less. But I get tired of idiot boys in their reduced function
trucks deciding my fields are the perfect proving grounds for their
useless junk.
>
> BTW, does Ford market their trucks as "light duty" like GM does (or
> at least did), meaning great for parking lot posing but not good for
> anything else......
>
> Gotta love that Amerikan customer service, too. If there's a frame
> rust issue with Tacomas, Toyota extends the warranty and offers a
> decent buy back. What would GM or Ford do? Let you watch it rust in
> your drive way. And don't tell me Amerikan made vehicles don't rust.
> You'll get your ass laughed off the Internet.
Ths its total BS. Toyota fights recalls tooth and nail . The usual
Toyota reaction to a design / manufacturing screw ups is to 1) deny
there is a problem, 2) when presented with evidence of a massive
problem, claim the data is wrong, 3) lie about the cause of the
problem, 4) blame the Customer, 5) lie some more, 6) blame the
Customer again, 7) just before NHTSA is set to issue a mandatory
recall, announce a "voluntary" recall, but say it is really the
Customers fault and they are only doing it becasue they are so nice,
8) if necessary, blame a supplier.
Look at the history of the truck ball joint recall, or this latest
floor mat thing, or the rusting frame problem, or the engine sludge
problem. Toyota PR spends more time blaiming Customers than actually
trying to get to the bottom of problems. Of all the car companies in
the US, Toyota is the most aggressive at fighting off recalls. I don't
understand all the Toyota apologists who turn a blind eye to Toyota's
many failuings. I am not saying Toyota is unique in having problems,
they are not. The biggest difference between Toyota and, say GM, is
that in the past Toyota ironed out many of their defect before selling
vehicles in the US. Now that many Toyota vehicles are US specific, or
introduced in the US at the same time as in the rest of the world, we
are now seeing many of the Toyota defects. However, Toyota, more so
than other manufacturers, tries to cover up these defects.
Partial List of Recent Pickup Truck Investigations:
PE09049 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2001 SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:FOUNDATION
COMPONENTS:DIFFERENTIAL PROPORTIONAL VALVE TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION
20091006 FRAME CORROSION THE OFFICE OF DEFECTS INVESTIGATION HAS
RECEIVED 20 REPORTS ON THE SUBJECT VEHICLES THAT RELATE TO SPARE TIRE
SEPARATION AND BRAKE SYSTEM FAILURES AS A RESULT OF SEVERE FRAME
CORROSION.THERE HAVE BEEN 15 REPORTS ALLEGING THE UNDER BODY MOUNTED
SPARE TIRE SEPARATED FROM THE REAR CROSSMEMBER AND FIVE REPORTS
ALLEGING BROKEN BRAKE LINES AT THE PROPORTIONING VALVE LOCATED ON THE
DRIVER'S SIDE OF THE REAR CROSSMEMBER AT THE UPPER SHOCK MOUNT.
DP08001 TOYOTA TACOMA 2007 VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL:ACCELERATOR PEDAL
TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION 20080131 20080827 SUDDEN AND UNCONTROLLED
ACCELERATION THE PETITIONER OWNS A MODEL YEAR (MY) 2006 TOYOTA TACOMA
EQUIPPED WITH A V6 ENGINE AND AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION.IN A PETITION
SENT TO NHTSA'S OFFICE OF DEFECTS INVESTIGATION (ODI) DATED JANUARY
10, 2008, HE ALLEGES HE EXPERIENCED TWO INCIDENTS OF UNWANTED
ACCELERATION WHILE DRIVING HIS TACOMA.THE PETITIONER REPORTED THAT
DURING BOTH INCIDENTS, WHILE APPLYING THE BRAKE, THE ENGINE SPEED
INCREASED OF ITS OWN ACCORD (WITHOUT ACCELERATOR APPLICATION), CAUSING
SUDDEN AND UNCONTROLLED ACCELERATION.THE PETITIONER REQUESTED THAT THE
AGENCY COMMENCE A PROCEEDING TO DETERMINE THE EXISTENCE OF A DEFECT
RELATED TO MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY INVOLVING THE ELECTRONICALLY ACTUATED
THROTTLE CONTROL SYSTEM.ODI REVIEWED THE PETITION, ASSESSED VOQS,
INTERVIEWED PERSONS WHO FILED VOQS, TESTED THE VEHICLE, AND REVIEWED
TOYOTA'S RESPONSE TO AN AGENCY INFORMATION REQUEST.THE COMPLAINTS FELL
INTO THREE GROUPS.A MAJORITY OF THE COMPLAINTS MAY HAVE INVOLVED THE
TACOMA'S THROTTLE CONTROL SYSTEM.SOME COMPLAINTS DID NOT INVOLVE A
FAILURE OF THE THROTTLE CONTROL SYSTEM.FOR THE REMAINING REPORTS,
ALTHOUGH THERE MAY HAVE BEEN AN ISSUE WITH THE THROTTLE CONTROL SYSTEM
AS ONE POSSIBLE EXPLANATION, WE HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO DETERMINE A CAUSE
RELATED TO THROTTLE CONTROL OR ANY UNDERLYING CAUSE THAT GAVE RISE TO
THE COMPLAINT.FOR THOSE VEHICLES WHERE THE THROTTLE CONTROL SYSTEM DID
NOT PERFORM AS THE OWNER BELIEVES IT SHOULD HAVE, THE INFORMATION
SUGGESTING A POSSIBLE DEFECT RELATED TO MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY IS QUITE
LIMITED.ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATION IS UNLIKELY TO RESULT IN A FINDING
THAT A DEFECT RELATED TO MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY EXISTS OR A NHTSA ORDER
FOR THE NOTIFICATION AND REMEDY OF A SAFETY-RELATED DEFECT AS
REQUESTED BY THE PETITIONER.THEREFORE, IN VIEW OF THE NEED TO ALLOCATE
AND PRIORITIZE NHTSA'S LIMITED RESOURCES TO BEST ACCOMPLISH THE
AGENCY'S SAFETY MISSION, THE PETITION IS DENIED.PLEASE SEE THEFEDERAL
REGISTER NOTICE FOR FURTHER DETAILS.
EA97015 TOYOTA TACOMA 1996 EXTERIOR LIGHTING TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH
AMERICA, INC. 19970722 19980921 TURN SIGNAL FAILURES ALLEGED LEFT
AND RIGHT TURN SIGNAL FUNCTIONS FAIL WHILE DRIVING.
EA04024 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2002 SUSPENSION:FRONT:CONTROL ARM TOYOTA MOTOR
NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20040820 20050708 05V225000 BALL JOINT SEPARATION
ODI RECEIVED 3 CONSUMER REPORTS OF ALLEGED BALL JOINT SEPARATION ON MY
2002 TUNDRA VEHICLES.THE COMPLAINTS ALLEGE THAT A FRONT SUSPENSION
BALL JOINT SEPARATED WHILE DRIVING, WHICH CAUSED THE SUSPENSION TO
COLLAPSE AND RESULTED IN A LOSS OF VEHICLE CONTROL.BASED ON THESE
COMPLAINTS, ODI OPENED PE02-040 AND LATER UPGRADED TO EA04-024 FOR MY
2002 TUNDRA VEHICLES.DURING EA04-024, ADDITIONAL FAILURE DATA WAS
IDENTIFIED AS NOTED IN THE FAILURE REPORT SUMMARY ABOVE. ON MAY 16,
2005, TOYOTA NOTIFIED NHTSA OF A SAFETY DEFECT ON MY 2002-2004 TUNDRA
AND SEQUOIA VEHICLES (PRODUCED BETWEEN AUGUST 1, 2001 AND SEPTEMBER
30, 2003), MY 2001-2004 TACOMA VEHICLES (PRODUCED BETWEEN JULY 31,
2001 AND DECEMBER 23, 2003), AND MY 2001-2002 4RUNNER VEHICLES
(PRODUCED BETWEEN MAY 22, 2001 AND AUGUST 23, 2002).THE NOTIFICATION
STATED THAT DUE TO A MANUFACTURING ISSUE WITH THE FRONT SUSPENSION
LOWER BALL JOINTS (WHICH CONNECT THE LOWER CONTROL ARMS TO THE
STEERING KNUCKLES OF THE FRONT WHEELS) THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT THE
SURFACE OF THE BALL OF THE JOINT MAY HAVE BEEN SCRATCHED.SUCH
SCRATCHES MAY RESULT IN SIGNIFICANTLY ACCELERATED WEAR OF THE JOINT.
ACCORDING TO TOYOTA, IF THE [SUBJECT] VEHICLE IS OPERATED FOR AN
EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME IN THIS CONDITION, THE BALL JOINT MAY
EVENTUALLY EXPERIENCE EXCESSIVE WEAR AND LOOSENESS, RESULTING IN
INCREASED STEERING EFFORT, REDUCED VEHICLE SELF-CENTERING, AND NOISE
IN THE FRONT SUSPENSION.IN EXTREME CASES, WHEN THE DRIVER CONTINUES TO
OPERATE THE VEHICLE IN THIS CONDITION, THE LOWER BALL JOINT MAY
SEPARATE FROM THE KNUCKLE CAUSING A LOSS OF VEHICLE STEERING CONTROL.
TOYOTA WILL INSTRUCT OWNERS TO RETURN THEIR VEHICLES TO ANY TOYOTA
DEALER FOR REPLACEMENT OF THE FRONT SUSPENSION LOWER BALL JOINTS.ODI
WILL MONITOR THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE REMEDY AND TAKE FURTHER ACTION
IF WARRANTED.
Partial List of Recent Pickup Truck Recalls (most of these recalls
apply to more years / models than listed - I only included one copy of
each recall notice. THe NHTSA database list the same recall repeatedly
for the different models / years):
4806 05V254000 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2004 70A AIR BAGS:ON-OFF SWITCH ASSEMBLY
TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20020903 20050422 V 156111 20070112
MFR TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20050602 20050606 571 225 CERTAIN
PICKUP TRUCKS FAIL TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF FEDERAL MOTOR
VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARD NO. 225, 'CHILD RESTRAINT ANCHORAGE SYSTEMS.'
THESE VEHICLES HAVE A MANUAL AIR BAG ON-OFF SWITCH TO DISABLE THE
FRONT PASSENGER AIR BAG AND DO NOT HAVE A CHILD RESTRAINT LOWER
ANCHORAGE SYSTEM IN THE FRONT PASSENGER SEAT. THIS SPECIFICATION DOES
NOT MEET THE STANDARD REQUIREMENTS. THIS STANDARD ESTABLISHES
REQUIREMENTS FOR CHILD RESTRAINT ANCHORAGE SYSTEMS TO ENSURE THEIR
PROPER LOCATION AND STRENGTH FOR THE EFFECTIVE SECURING OF CHILD
RESTRAINTS, TO REDUCE THE LIKELIHOOD OF THE ANCHORAGE SYSTEMS'
FAILURE, AND TO INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD THAT CHILD RESTRAINTS ARE
PROPERLY SECURED AND THUS MORE FULLY ACHIEVE THEIR POTENTIAL
EFFECTIVENESS IN MOTOR VEHICLES. DEALERS WILL REMOVE THE MANUAL AIR
BAG ON-OFF SWITCH, REPLACE THE OWNER'S MANUAL, AND AFFIX A NEW SUN
VISOR AIR BAG WARNING LABEL. THE RECALL BEGAN IN EARLY JANUARY 2007.
OWNERS MAY CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331. TOYOTA RECALL NO.
70A.CUSTOMERS CAN ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY
ADMINISTRATION¿S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY
1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.
000022038000111982000000261
5039 08E029000 SOUTHEAST TOYOTA TUNDRA 2007 WHEELS:LUGS/NUTS/BOLTS
SOUTHEAST TOYOTA DISTRIBUTORS E 216 20080421 MFR SOUTHEAST TOYOTA
DISTRIBUTORS 20080331 20080403 SOUTHEAST TOYOTA IS RECALLING ALLOY
WHEEL LUG NUTS USED FOR THE 18" DIAMOND FINISH 5-SPOKE ALLOY WHEELS
AND 20" PAINTED ALLOY WHEELS WITH 6-DUAL SPOKES SOLD AS AN UPGRADE
PACKAGE FOR 2007 TOYOTA TUNDRA MODEL VEHICLES. THE WHEEL NUTS CAN
CRACK AND BREAK IF THE WHEELS ARE NOT INSTALLED CAREFULLY OR NOT
CAREFULLY TIGHTENED. THIS WHEEL NUT CONDITION COULD OCCUR AT THE TIME
OF WHEEL INSTALLATION, TIRE ROTATION, OR SERVICE. CRACKED OR BROKEN
WHEEL NUTS COULD RESULT IN A VEHICLE CRASH. SOUTHEAST TOYOTA WILL
NOTIFY OWNERS AND REPLACE THE WHEEL NUTS WITH A MORE ROBUST WHEEL NUT
FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON APRIL 21, 2008. OWNERS MAY
CONTACT SOUTHEAST TOYOTA CUSTOMER LOYALTY DEPARTMENT TOLL-FREE AT
800-301-6859. CUSTOMERS MAY CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC
SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY:
1-800-424-9153); OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.
000026400000357626000000312
10930 00V103000 GULF TOYOTA TUNDRA 2000 TRAILER HITCHES GULF STATES
TOYOTA, INC. 19990401 20000321 V 7000 20000609 MFR GULF STATES TOYOTA,
INC. 20000407 20000428 VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: PICKUP TRUCKS EQUIPPED
WITH A TEKONSHA TRAILER HITCH WIRING HARNESS AND CONVERTER AND
DISTRIBUTED BY GULF STATES TOYOTA (TEXAS, OKLAHOMA, LOUISIANA,
ARKANSAS, AND MISSISSIPPI). AN ELECTRICAL SHORT CIRCUIT CAN OCCUR IF
WATER ENTERS THE CONVERTER HOUSING. THIS SHORT CIRCUIT COULD CAUSE A
FAILURE OF THE CONVERTER, AND IF A TRAILER IS BEING TOWED AT THE TIME,
CAN ALSO CAUSE INOPERATIVE TRAILER LIGHTS. THIS RECALL HAS BEEN
SUPERSEDED BY RECALL NO. 02V-050. OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN JUNE 9,
2000.OWNERS WHO TAKE THEIR VEHICLES TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN
AGREED UPON SERVICE DATE AND DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A
REASONABLE TIME SHOULD CONTACT GULF STATES TOYOTA AT
1-800-444-1074.ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY
ADMINISTRATION'S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT
(1-888-327-4236). 000010453000089175000000316
16033 02V050000 GULF TOYOTA TUNDRA 2001 TRAILER HITCHES GULF STATES
TOYOTA, INC. 19990401 20020204 V 8609 20020422 MFR GULF STATES TOYOTA,
INC. 20020211 20020305 CERTAIN PICKUP TRUCKS EQUIPPED WITH A
TEKONSHA TRAILER HITCH WIRING HARNESS AND CONVERTER AND DISTRIBUTED BY
GULF STATES TOYOTA (TEXAS, OKLAHOMA, LOUISIANA, ARKANSAS, AND
MISSISSIPPI). THE CIRCUITRY USED IN THE CONVERTER, WHICH IS
INADEQUATE TO MANAGE PROPERLY VEHICLE AND/OR TRAILER-SIDE VOLTAGE
SPIKES. IF THE CONVERTER IS EXPOSED TO A VOLTAGE SPIKE, IT COULD
CAUSE AN ELECTRICAL SHORT OR OPEN CIRCUIT WITHIN THE CONVERTER. THIS
SHORT CIRCUIT COULD CAUSE A FAILURE OF THE CONVERTER, AND IF A TRAILER
IS BEING TOWED AT THE TIME, CAN ALSO CAUSE INOPERATIVE TRAILER LIGHTS.
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE WIRE HARNESS AND CONVERTER. OWNER
NOTIFICATION BEGAN APRIL 22, 2002. OWNERS WHO TAKE THEIR VEHICLES TO
AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON SERVICE DATE AND DO NOT RECEIVE
THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD CONTACT GULF STATES
TOYOTA AT 1-800-444-1074. ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC
SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT
(1-888-327-4236). 000014755000093220000000316
20736 02V129000 SOUTHEAST TOYOTA TUNDRA 2001 WHEELS SOUTHEAST TOYOTA
DISTRIBUTORS 20020520 V 3041 20020715 MFR SOUTHEAST TOYOTA
DISTRIBUTORS 20020501 20020514 ON CERTAIN 4X2 VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH
AN ALLOY WHEEL TIRE UPGRADE (OPTIONS WM4, WM8, ZL1-ZL4, DH4, OR DH5)
INSTALLED BY THE PROCESSING CENTERS IN JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA OR
COMMERCE, GEORGIA, A LABEL IDENTIFYING THE SPARE TIRE AS A TEMPORARY
USE SPARE TIRE WAS NOT INSTALLED. THE UPGRADE INCLUDES 4 LARGER SIZE
TIRES WITH ALLOY WHEELS. THE ORIGINAL SPARE TIRE/STEEL WHEEL IS NOT
PART OF THE UPGRADE AND WAS NOT CHANGED. DIFFERENT OPERATING
CHARACTERISTICS CAN BE EXPERIENCED WHEN THE SPARE TIRE IS INSTALLED ON
THE VEHICLE. OWNERS WILL BE PROVIDED WITH A CAUTION LABEL AND AN
INSERT FOR THEIR OWNER'S MANUAL. OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN JULY 15,
2002. OWNERS WHO DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE
TIME SHOULD CONTACT SOUTHEAST TOYOTA AT 1-800-301-6859. CUSTOMERS CAN
ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S AUTO
SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236).
000014890000106044000000309
28020 07V013000 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2004 70B SUSPENSION:FRONT:CONTROL
ARM:LOWER BALL JOINT TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20030815
20061117 V 533124 20070228 ODI TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION 20070119
20070119 ON CERTAIN TRUCKS AND MINI VANS, DUE TO POSSIBLE IMPROPER
FINISHING OF THE FRONT SUSPENSION LOWER BALL JOINT, SOME BALL JOINTS
MAY EXPERIENCE AN INCIDENTAL DETERIORATION OF THE INTERNAL
LUBRICATION. THIS MAY CAUSE THE BALL JOINT TO WEAR AND LOOSEN
PREMATURELY, WHICH COULD RESULT IN INCREASED STEERING EFFORT, REDUCED
VEHICLE SELF-CENTERING, AND NOISE IN THE FRONT SUSPENSION. IN EXTREME
CASES, IF THE VEHICLE IS CONTINUOUSLY OPERATED IN THIS CONDITION, THE
LOWER BALL JOINT MAY SEPARATE FROM THE KNUCKLE AND COULD CAUSE A LOSS
OF VEHICLE CONTROL. DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE FRONT SUSPENSION LOWER
BALL JOINTS. THE RECALL BEGAN ON FEBRUARY 28, 2007. OWNERS MAY
CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331. TOYOTA RECALL NO. 70B.CUSTOMERS MAY
ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S
VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO
TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV. 000023188000216308000000041
37843 08V080000 SOUTHEAST TOYOTA TUNDRA 2007 WHEELS:LUGS/NUTS/BOLTS
SOUTHEAST TOYOTA DISTRIBUTORS V 1716 20080418 MFR SOUTHEAST TOYOTA
DISTRIBUTORS 20080225 20080225 SOUTHEAST TOYOTA IS RECALLING 1,555
MY 2007 TUNDRA VEHICLES DUE TO A WHEEL NUT ISSUE. THE RECALLED
VEHICLES ARE MY 2007 TUNDRAS EQUIPPED WITH 18" INSTALLED DIAMOND
FINISH 5-SPOKE ALLOY WHEELS (OPTION CODE WN1 OR WN4) OR 20" INSTALLED
PAINTED ALLOY WHEELS WITH 6 DUAL SPOKES (OPTION CODE WV1 OR WV4).
AFFECTED VEHICLES WERE ORIGINALLY SOLD IN FLORIDA, GEORGIA, ALABAMA,
NORTH CAROLINA OR SOUTH CAROLINA. WHEN THE VEHICLE WAS PROCESSED AT
THE PORT, THE UPGRADED ALLOY WHEELS WERE FASTENED WITH NEW WHEEL NUTS.
THE WHEEL NUTS CAN CRACK AND BREAK IF THEY ARE NOT INSTALLED CAREFULLY
OR NOT CAREFULLY TIGHTENED. THIS WHEEL NUT CONDITION COULD OCCUR AT
THE TIME OF WHEEL INSTALLATION, TIRE ROTATION, OR SERVICE. IF A
VEHICLE'S WHEEL HAS A CRACKED OR BROKEN WHEEL NUT CONDITION AND THE
WHEEL BECOMES LOOSE AND FALLS OFF THE VEHICLE WITHOUT WARNING, A CRASH
COULD OCCUR. DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE ATTACHING WHEEL NUTS. THE
RECALL BEGAN ON APRIL 18, 2008. OWNERS MAY CONTACT SOUTHEAST TOYOTA
AT 1-800-301-6859. CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY
TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT
1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.
000026111000357626000000312
38878 09V388000 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2007 VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL:ACCELERATOR
PEDAL TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION V 3800000 20091008 MFR TOYOTA MOTOR
CORPORATION 20091005 20091006 TOYOTA IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR
2004-2010 PASSENGER VEHICLES. THE ACCELERATOR PEDAL CAN GET STUCK IN
THE WIDE OPEN POSITION DUE TO ITS BEING TRAPPED BY AN UNSECURED OR
INCOMPATIBLE DRIVER'S FLOOR MAT. A STUCK OPEN ACCELERATOR PEDAL MAY
RESULT IN VERY HIGH VEHICLE SPEEDS AND MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO STOP THE
VEHICLE, WHICH COULD CAUSE A CRASH, SERIOUS INJURY OR DEATH. TOYOTA
WILL NOTIFY OWNERS OF AFFECTED VEHICLES TO REMOVE ANY DRIVER'S FLOOR
MAT AND NOT REPLACE IT WITH ANY OTHER FLOOR MAT PENDING THE
DEVELOPMENT OF MODEL-SPECIFIC REMEDIES. TOYOTA WILL MAIL A SECOND
NOTIFICATION TO OWNERS OF AFFECTED VEHICLES NOTIFYING THEM OF THE FREE
REMEDIES WHEN THEY ARE AVAILABLE. THE FIRST NOTICE IS EXPECTED TO BE
MAILED DURING OCTOBER 2009 AND TOYOTA WILL ADVISE NHTSA OF THE
ESTIMATED DATE WHEN THE REMEDIES WILL BE AVAILABLE. OWNERS MAY
CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331, LEXUS AT 1-800-255-3987. OWNERS MAY
ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S
VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO
TO <A HREF=HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV>HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV</A> .
000033638000222026000000295
49208 01E041000 TOYOTA TRAILER HARNESS CONVERTER 9999 TRAILER HITCHES
TOYOTA MOTOR CO., LTD. E 70717 20010827 MFR TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH
AMERICA, INC. 20010801 20010809 EQUIPMENT DESCRIPTION: THIS RECALL
IS FOR TRAILER TOWING WIRE HARNESS CONVERTERS INSTALLED BY DEALERS OR
FOR INSTALLATION ON 1999-2000 TOYOTA TUNDRA AND TACOMA VEHICLES. THE
CONNECTORS INTEGRATE THE VEHICLE'S TAIL LIGHTS, BRAKE LIGHTS, AND TURN
SIGNAL LIGHTS WITH THOSE EQUIPPED ON THE TRAILER, ARE DEFECTIVE.
AFFECTED PART NUMBERS ARE: PT207-34000, PT207-34002, PT207-04981, AND
PT214-04985. IN THE TUNDRA VEHICLES, THE CIRCUITRY UTILIZED IN THE
CONVERTER WAS INADEQUATE TO PROPERLY MANAGE VEHICLE AND/OR
TRAILER-SIDE VOLTAGE SPIKES. IF THE CONVERTER IS EXPOSED TO A VOLTAGE
SPIKE, IT MAY CAUSE AN ELECTRICAL SHORT OR OPEN CIRCUIT WITHIN THE
CONVERTER. IN THE TACOMA VEHICLES, DUE TO DEFICIENT WATERPROOFING AND
IMPROPER INSTALLATION LOCATION OF THE CONVERTER, WHICH IS MOUNTED IN
THE LOWER PORTION OF THE TAILGATE CAVITY OF THE VEHICLE, AN ELECTRICAL
SHORT CIRCUIT WILL OCCUR IF WATER ENTERS THE CONVERTER HOUSING. AN
ELECTRICAL SHORT OR OPEN CIRCUIT CAN CAUSE A FAULT IN THE CONVERTER
AND A NON-OPERATIONAL CONDITION OF THE TRAILER LIGHTS. IF THE
VEHICLE IS DRIVEN WITHOUT TRAILER LIGHTS, IT MAY BE DIFFICULT FOR
OTHER DRIVERS TO SEE THE TRAILER, INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.
DEALERS WILL NOTIFY THE CUSTOMERS AND INSTALL A REDESIGNED TRAILER
TOWING WIRE HARNESS CONVERTER FREE OF CHARGE. OWNER NOTIFICATION
BEGAN AUGUST 27, 2001. OWNERS WHO TAKE THEIR VEHICLES TO AN
AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON SERVICE DATE AND DO NOT RECEIVE
THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD CONTACT TOYOTA AT
1-800-331-4331. ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY
ADMINISTRATION'S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT
(1-888-327-4236). 000013997000101205000000316
56213 05V225000 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2002 50J SUSPENSION:FRONT:CONTROL
ARM:LOWER BALL JOINT TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20010801
20030930 V 768379 20050705 ODI TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC.
20050517 20050517 ON CERTAIN SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES, DUE TO A
MANUFACTURING ISSUE IN THE FRONT SUSPENSION LOWER BALL JOINT, THERE IS
A POSSIBILITY THAT THE SURFACE OF THE BALL OF THE JOINT MAY HAVE BEEN
SCRATCHED. THE BALL JOINT MAY EVENTUALLY EXPERIENCE EXCESSIVE WEAR
AND LOOSENESS, RESULTING IN INCREASED STEERING EFFORT. THE LOWER BALL
JOINT MAY SEPARATE FROM THE KNUCKLE CAUSING LOSS OF STEERING CONTROL
AND A CRASH COULD OCCUR. DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE FRONT SUSPENSION
LOWER BALL JOINTS FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON JULY 5, 2005.
OWNERS MAY CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331. TOYOTA RECALL NO.
50J.CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY
ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY
1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.
000022000000097919000000041
56688 05E077000 TOYOTA 20" ALLOY WHEEL 9999 WHEELS:LUGS/NUTS/BOLTS
TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. E 22 20051122 MFR TOYOTA MOTOR
NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20051222 20051202 CERTAIN TOYOTA TUNDRA AND
SEQUOIA TRUCKS EQUIPPED WITH TOYOTA RACING DEVELOPMENT (TRD) 20" ALLOY
WHEELS SOLD AND INSTALLED BY TOYOTA DEALERS AS AN AFTERMARKET
ACCESSORY WHEEL. DUE TO A MANUFACTURING ERROR, THE LUG-NUT HOLES WERE
NOT MACHINED TO THE APPROPRIATE SPECIFICATION WHICH WILL REDUCE THREAD
ENGAGEMENT. THESE WHEELS MAY NOT MAINTAIN THE APPROPRIATE TORQUE
SPECIFICATION REQUIRED SECURING THE WHEEL TO THE VEHICLE. THIS MAY
EVENTUALLY LEAD TO WHEEL FAILURE AND POSSIBLY RESULT IN A VEHICLE
CRASH. ALL SIX VEHICLE OWNERS HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY TELEPHONE
AND INSTRUCTED TO RETURN THEIR VEHICLES TO THEIR DEALER FOR
REPLACEMENT OF THE TRD ACCESSORY 20" ALLOY WHEELS WITH CORRECTED ONES
FREE OF CHARGE. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331.
CUSTOMERS MAY CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY
ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236; (TTY:
1-800-424-9153); OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.
000022469000214892000000312
58201 07V579000 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2007 70G POWER
TRAIN:DRIVELINE:DRIVESHAFT TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20061109
20070803 V 15616 20080107 MFR TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION 20071218
20071218 ON CERTAIN 4-WHEEL DRIVE PICKUP TRUCKS, DUE TO THE
IMPROPER HEAT TREATMENT OF THE SLIP YOKES THAT HAD BEEN REWORKED
DURING THE MANUFACTURING PROCESS, THE HARDNESS OF THE SLIP YOKE MAY BE
INSUFFICIENT. IN THIS CONDITION, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT THE YOKE
MAY BREAK CAUSING THE PROPELLER SHAFT TO SEPARATE AT THE JOINT AND
COME INTO CONTACT WITH THE ROAD SURFACE OR THE FUEL TANK WHICH COULD
RESULT IN A LOSS OF VEHICLE CONTROL OR A FUEL LEAK. DEALERS WILL
INSPECT THE SLIP YOKE AND REPLACE THE PROPELLER SHAFT IF NECESSARY
FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON JANUARY 7, 2008. OWNERS MAY
CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331. TOYOTA RECALL NO. 70G.CUSTOMERS MAY
ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION¿S
VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO
TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV. 000025636000222026000000192
60135 99V347003 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2000 SSC Y01 EXTERIOR LIGHTING:TAIL
LIGHTS TOYOTA MOTOR CO., LTD. 19990204 19990730 V 16472 20000225 ODI
TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20000118 20000203 VEHICLE
DESCRIPTION: LIGHT DUTY TRUCKS. THE TAIL LIGHT SOCKET MAY HAVE BEEN
IMPROPERLY MOLDED, RESULTING IN THE LOCKING TAB HAVING INSUFFICIENT
FORCE TO RETAIN THE BULB. IF THE BULB FALLS OUT OF THE SOCKET, THE
BRAKE OR TAIL LAMP FUNCTION CANNOT OCCUR. DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE
TAIL LAMP SOCKETS. TOYOTA RECALL NO. SSC Y01.OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN
FEBRUARY 25, 2000.OWNERS WHO TAKE THEIR VEHICLES TO AN AUTHORIZED
DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON SERVICE DATE AND DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE
REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD CONTACT TOYOTA AT
1-800-331-4331. ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY
ADMINISTRATION'S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT
(1-888-327-4236). 000010052000086732000000223
70203 09V223000 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2008 EQUIPMENT:OTHER:LABELS TOYOTA
MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20050901 20090504 V 27080 20090918 OVSC
TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION 20090615 20090615 571 110 TOYOTA IS RECALLING
27,080 MODEL YEAR 2009 AND 2010 PASSENGER CARS BUILT FROM JUNE 2, 2008
TO MAY 4, 2009. THESE VEHICLES WERE NOT EQUIPPED WITH LOAD CARRYING
CAPACITY MODIFICATION LABELS WHICH FAILS TO CONFORM WITH THE
REQUIREMENTS OF FEDERAL MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARD NO. 110, "TIRE
SELECTION AND RIMS." INCORRECT LOAD CARRYING CAPACITY MODIFICATION
LABELS COULD RESULT IN THE VEHICLE BEING OVERLOADED, INCREASING THE
RISK OF A CRASH. TOYOTA WILL NOTIFY OWNERS AND PROVIDE THEM WITH A
NEW, ACCURATE LABEL TO BE INSTALLED OVER THE INACCURATE LABEL FREE OF
CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN ON OR ABOUT AUGUST 31,
2009. OWNERS MAY CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-888-270-9371. OWNERS MAY ALSO
CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE
SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO <A
HREF=HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV>HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV</A> .
000031939000360681000000349
77183 05V123000 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2005 50E ENGINE AND ENGINE
COOLING:EXHAUST SYSTEM TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20030801
20041222 V 5726 20050531 MFR TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20050330
20050330 CERTAIN PICKUP TRUCKS EQUIPPED WITH BOTH VEHICLE STABILITY
CONTROL (VSC) AND THE TRD DUAL EXHAUST SYSTEMS. THE TRD DUAL EXHAUST
SYSTEM MET ALL CLEARANCE SPECIFICATIONS ON MODELS WITHOUT VSC, HOWEVER
THE DRIVER'S SIDE EXHAUST LOCATED IN A POSITION WHERE CONTACT BETWEEN
A BRAKE LINE FOUND ONLY ON VEHICLES WITH VSC AND THE TRD EXHAUST PIPE
MIGHT OCCUR. IN THIS CONDITION, THE EXHAUST PIPE FLANGE MAY RUB
AGAINST THE RIGHT REAR BRAKE LINE, WHICH COULD CAUSE BRAKE FLUID
LEAKAGE. THIS COULD LEAD TO AN INCREASE OF VEHICLE STOPPING DISTANCE,
WHICH COULD RESULT IN A CRASH. DEALERS WILL INSPECT AND, IF SO
EQUIPPED, WILL REPLACE THE TRD DUAL EXHAUST SYSTEM FREE OF CHARGE.
DURING THIS REPLACEMENT, THE DEALER WILL ALSO INSPECT THE SPECIFIC
BRAKE LINE TO ASSURE IT HAS NOT BEEN DAMAGED AND REPLACE IT IF
NECESSARY. THE RECALL BEGAN ON MAY 31, 2005. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT
TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331. TOYOTA RECALL NO. 50E.CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO
CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE
SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO
HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV. 000021874000115015000000138
77330 05V328000 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2005 50K AIR BAGS:FRONTAL TOYOTA MOTOR
NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20050422 20050629 V 2527 20050805 MFR TOYOTA MOTOR
NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20050720 20050721 571 208 CERTAIN PICKUP TRUCKS
EQUIPPED WITH AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSIONS AND OPTIONAL FABRIC FRONT
CAPTAIN'S CHAIRS FAIL TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF FEDERAL MOTOR
VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARD NO. 208, 'OCCUPANT CRASH PROTECTION.' THESE
VEHICLES WERE BUILT WITH AN INCORRECT FRONT PASSENGER OCCUPANT
CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM INDICATOR LIGHT LENS WHICH WILL NOT DISPLAY THE
STATUS OF THE FRONT PASSENGER AIR BAG. AS A RESULT, THE VEHICLE
OCCUPANTS WILL NOT BE MADE AWARE OF WHETHER OR NOT THE AIR BAG IS
ACTIVATED AND READY TO PROTECT THE OCCUPANT AS APPROPRIATE. DEALERS
WILL REPLACE THE FRONT PASSENGER OCCUPANT CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM
INDICATOR LENS. THE RECALL BEGAN AUGUST 5, 2005. OWNERS MAY CONTACT
TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331. TOYOTA RECALL NO. 50K.CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO
CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION¿S VEHICLE
SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236; (TTY: 1-800-424-9153); OR GO TO
HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV. 000022141000115015000000257
4333 96V129000 TOYOTA TACOMA 1996 SUSPENSION:FRONT TOYOTA MOTOR CO.,
LTD. V 90000 19960906 MFR TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 19960710
19960715 UNDER CERTAIN DRIVING CONDITIONS, THE FRONT SUSPENSION
SUPPORT CAN CRACK LEADING TO FAILURE OF THE SUPPORT. THIS CONDITION
CAN RESULT IN LOSS OF VEHICLE CONTROL. DEALERS WILL REPAIR THE
SUSPENSION SUPPORT. SYSTEM: SUSPENSION; INDEPENDENT; FRONT. VEHICLE
DESCRIPTION: LIGHT DUTY PICKUP TRUCK. OWNER NOTIFICATION: OWNER
NOTIFICATION IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN IN LATE AUGUST 1996. NOTE: OWNERS
WHO TAKE THEIR VEHICLES TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON
SERVICE DATE AND DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE
TIME SHOULD CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331. ALSO CONTACT THE
NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE
AT 1-800-424-9393. 000007849000070722000000023
4699 03V189000 TOYOTA TACOMA 2002 SSC 30H FUEL SYSTEM,
GASOLINE:DELIVERY:HOSES, LINES/PIPING, AND FITTINGS TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH
AMERICA, INC. 20000919 20030227 V 123360 20030603 MFR TOYOTA MOTOR
NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20030519 20030522 ON CERTAIN PICKUP TRUCKS,
DURING SIDE IMPACT NCAP TEST (I.E. LINCAP TEST), A FLANGE AT THE REAR
END OF THE DOUBLE CAB BODY DEFORMED AND INTERFERED WITH THE FUEL INLET
HOSE THAT CONNECTS THE FUEL FILLER PIPE AND FUEL TANK, RESULTING IN
DAMAGE TO THE FUEL INLET HOSE. THIS DAMAGE COULD RESULT IN FUEL
LEAKAGE, WHICH COULD RESULT IN A FIRE IF IN THE PRESENCE OF AN
IGNITION SOURCE. DEALERS WILL INSTALL A FUEL HOSE PROTECTOR ON THE
BODY FLANGE. OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN JUNE 3, 2003. OWNERS WHO TAKE
THEIR VEHICLES TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON SERVICE DATE
AND DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD
CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331. TOYOTA RECALL NO.SSC 30H.CUSTOMERS
CAN ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION¿S
AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236).
000020373000097358000000153
8189 98V188000 TOYOTA TACOMA 1998 AIR BAGS:ON-OFF SWITCH ASSEMBLY
TOYOTA MOTOR CO., LTD. 19980119 19980806 V 84323 19981116 MFR TOYOTA
MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 19980806 19980817 571 208 VEHICLE
DESCRIPTION: PASSENGER VEHICLES. THE STATEMENT REQUIRED IN THE
OWNER'S MANUAL THAT "...THE ON-OFF SWITCH SHOULD ONLY BEN USED WHEN A
MEMBER OF A PASSENGER RISK GROUP IDENTIFIED IN THE REQUEST FORM IN
APPENDIX B......IS OCCUPYING THE RIGHT FRONT PASSENGER SEATING
POSITION..." IS MIS-STATED. THIS DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE
REQUIREMENTS OF FMVSS 208, "OCCUPANT CRASH PROTECTION." IF THE AIR BAG
SWITCH IS "OFF," THE SEAT OCCUPANT WHO IS NOT A MEMBER OF THE
PASSENGER RISK GROUP WOULD BE SUBJECT TO INCREASED INJURY IN THE EVENT
OF A VEHICLE CRASH. OWNERS WILL BE SENT A CORRECTED OWNER'S MANUAL.
OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN NOVEMBER 16, 1998.OWNERS WHO DO NOT RECEIVE
THE CORRECTED OWNER'S MANUAL WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD CONTACT
TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331.ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC
SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT
(1-888-327-4236). 000008765000078620000000261
5911 03V189000 TOYOTA TACOMA 2001 SSC 30H FUEL SYSTEM,
GASOLINE:DELIVERY:HOSES, LINES/PIPING, AND FITTINGS TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH
AMERICA, INC. 20000919 20030227 V 123360 20030603 MFR TOYOTA MOTOR
NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20030519 20030522 ON CERTAIN PICKUP TRUCKS,
DURING SIDE IMPACT NCAP TEST (I.E. LINCAP TEST), A FLANGE AT THE REAR
END OF THE DOUBLE CAB BODY DEFORMED AND INTERFERED WITH THE FUEL INLET
HOSE THAT CONNECTS THE FUEL FILLER PIPE AND FUEL TANK, RESULTING IN
DAMAGE TO THE FUEL INLET HOSE. THIS DAMAGE COULD RESULT IN FUEL
LEAKAGE, WHICH COULD RESULT IN A FIRE IF IN THE PRESENCE OF AN
IGNITION SOURCE. DEALERS WILL INSTALL A FUEL HOSE PROTECTOR ON THE
BODY FLANGE. OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN JUNE 3, 2003. OWNERS WHO TAKE
THEIR VEHICLES TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON SERVICE DATE
AND DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD
CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331. TOYOTA RECALL NO.SSC 30H.CUSTOMERS
CAN ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION¿S
AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236).
000020373000092516000000153
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 27 2009 7:13 am
From: "JoeSpareBedroom"
"C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:hc6u39$uho$1@news.eternal-september.org...
That sure was a lot of data in your last message. But there's still some
important data missing. You still can't show data which indicates how many
people buy trucks "just to have", vs those who buy them because of their
work. That data would also need to be broken down by brand. You've made
claims which require this data in order to be believable, but you've never
shown the data. That's probably because such data doesn't exist.
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 27 2009 7:51 am
From: SMS
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:hc6u39$uho$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> That sure was a lot of data in your last message. But there's still some
> important data missing. You still can't show data which indicates how many
> people buy trucks "just to have", vs those who buy them because of their
> work. That data would also need to be broken down by brand. You've made
> claims which require this data in order to be believable, but you've never
> shown the data. That's probably because such data doesn't exist.
You have to look at the big picture.
Consider that people shopping for a vehicle at a Ford dealer will often
purchase the F150 rather than one of Ford's rather poor sedans, coupes,
or SUVs. That's how you end up with the F150 often being the "best
selling vehicle in the U.S." No one thinks that all those buyers are
contractors; those F150s are the daily commute vehicle for most of the
buyers.
People shopping for a vehicle at a Toyota dealer have a selection of
excellent cars, trucks, and SUVs. Few Toyota buyers are going to choose
a large pickup truck, with its rather poor MPG, as a passenger vehicle
for daily use. That's why Tundra buyers tend to be people that are using
their trucks for real work, not weekend warriors hauling bags of potting
soil home from Lowe's or Home Depot.
The market for personal vehicles is much larger than the market for real
work trucks, that's why the F150 sells well.
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 27 2009 7:57 am
From: "JoeSpareBedroom"
"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:4ae708da$0$1648$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:hc6u39$uho$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> That sure was a lot of data in your last message. But there's still some
>> important data missing. You still can't show data which indicates how
>> many people buy trucks "just to have", vs those who buy them because of
>> their work. That data would also need to be broken down by brand. You've
>> made claims which require this data in order to be believable, but you've
>> never shown the data. That's probably because such data doesn't exist.
>
> You have to look at the big picture.
>
> Consider that people shopping for a vehicle at a Ford dealer will often
> purchase the F150 rather than one of Ford's rather poor sedans, coupes, or
> SUVs. That's how you end up with the F150 often being the "best selling
> vehicle in the U.S." No one thinks that all those buyers are contractors;
> those F150s are the daily commute vehicle for most of the buyers.
>
> People shopping for a vehicle at a Toyota dealer have a selection of
> excellent cars, trucks, and SUVs. Few Toyota buyers are going to choose a
> large pickup truck, with its rather poor MPG, as a passenger vehicle for
> daily use. That's why Tundra buyers tend to be people that are using their
> trucks for real work, not weekend warriors hauling bags of potting soil
> home from Lowe's or Home Depot.
>
> The market for personal vehicles is much larger than the market for real
> work trucks, that's why the F150 sells well.
Maybe, but without data (which doesn't exist), your theories do nothing but
invite yet another detour in the discussion. Hunter should come along
shortly, sputtering & drooling with another of his drunken, misspelled
opinions.
But still, there will be no data. There may be a few dealerships where real
sales training is done, and the salespeople proactively ask buyers how they
plan on using their trucks. But we'll never know because nobody polls car
salesmen on this subject. I wish somebody would prove me wrong, though. It
would mean that there was more sales professionalism in the car business
than previously thought. That would be a win-win situation in so many ways.
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 27 2009 8:58 am
From: "C. E. White"
"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:4ae708da$0$1648$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:hc6u39$uho$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> That sure was a lot of data in your last message. But there's still
>> some important data missing. You still can't show data which
>> indicates how many people buy trucks "just to have", vs those who
>> buy them because of their work. That data would also need to be
>> broken down by brand. You've made claims which require this data in
>> order to be believable, but you've never shown the data. That's
>> probably because such data doesn't exist.
>
> You have to look at the big picture.
>
> Consider that people shopping for a vehicle at a Ford dealer will
> often purchase the F150 rather than one of Ford's rather poor
> sedans, coupes, or SUVs. That's how you end up with the F150 often
> being the "best selling vehicle in the U.S." No one thinks that all
> those buyers are contractors; those F150s are the daily commute
> vehicle for most of the buyers.
>
> People shopping for a vehicle at a Toyota dealer have a selection of
> excellent cars, trucks, and SUVs. Few Toyota buyers are going to
> choose a large pickup truck, with its rather poor MPG, as a
> passenger vehicle for daily use. That's why Tundra buyers tend to be
> people that are using their trucks for real work, not weekend
> warriors hauling bags of potting soil home from Lowe's or Home
> Depot.
>
> The market for personal vehicles is much larger than the market for
> real work trucks, that's why the F150 sells well.
This is sort of weird logic.
It seems to me you are saying - People decide they want a Ford, they
go to the Ford dealer, and the only decent vehcile is an F150, so they
buy it. They don't consider cars from other manufacturers, only Ford,
so they feel stuck with F150s. Do you think this is reasonable?
Don't you think it is more likely, that for whatever reason a large
number of people decide they want a truck, and then once they decide
they want a truck, a large percentage decide to buy a Ford F150? This
seems much more likely to me.
In the last 5 years I have bought five new vehicles (three for me and
two for children). Three were cars (Mustang, Fusion, Mazda3) and two
were trucks (Frontier, F150). I didn't start out looking to buy a car
(say the Fusion) and end up in an F150. I wanted/needed a car and
bought a car that I thought best meet the need (or want). Likewise
when I decided to get a new farm truck, I looked around and bought a
truck. I didn't go to the Toyota dealer and think, hey, they have
great cars, I'll buy one. No, I looked at their trucks, and Ford's,
and Nissan's, and bought a Nissan (and then after 3 years decided I
hated it and bought a Ford).
I can buy the arguement that until recently Ford's car offereings were
not as attractive relative to their trucks as offering from other
manufacturers, and therefore Ford sales were skewed to trucks (i.e., a
larger percetnage of Ford's total sales were trucks than cars). I
can't buy the arguement that the F150 is the best selling vehicle
becasue it is Ford's only decent offering.
Ed
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 27 2009 10:29 am
From: "Ken Nichelson"
Hi check out this great deal on dish TV
http://www.vmcsatellite.com/?aid=304279
"Ken Nichelson" <kncollision@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4ec4e$4a8eded5$4b4c54db$6198@KNOLOGY.NET...
> w
> Subject: 1970 road runner for sale
>
>
>>I have a numbers matching 1970 Road Runner for sale I have had the car
>>for
>> over 30 years very nice car
>>
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>
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