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* Latest Mis-Leading Tundra Commercial - 3 messages, 3 authors
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* No salvation for you, reprobate! (Mormon teaching enclosed) - 16 messages, 6
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TOPIC: Latest Mis-Leading Tundra Commercial
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos/t/e707915212a12b48?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 20 2009 7:45 pm
From: "M. Balmer"
the oddity is finding very many eight to ten year old F150's running the
roads
"Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2@lycos,com> wrote in message
news:4addcb85$0$12271$ce5e7886@news-radius.ptd.net...
> Really? If anyone actually wanted a Tundra they could have had their pick
> at the Manheim Auto Auctions for as low as $25,000 just last month.
>
> I don't know were you live but I'm sure if you look around and you will
> see plenty of twenty year old F150's still running on the roadways. One
> old Tundra is an oddity ;)
>
>
> "SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
> news:4addc5ba$0$1632$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>> C. E. White wrote:
>>> Has anyone notice the snap shot in the new Tundra Commercial? In the
>>> commercial a contractor talks about when he started out 7 years ago he
>>> needed a dependable truck and bought a Tundra (this in itself is
>>> misleading - I doubt if 1 in a 100 contractor considered a Tunda in
>>> 2002).
>>
>> The only contractor I've used had a Tundra of that era. He still has it
>> with nearly 300K miles on it. His feeling is that it's better to spend a
>> little more for a truck that will not need replacing every few years, but
>> it's true that the Tundra cost more than your standard Ford, Chevy, or
>> Dodge truck.
>>
>
>
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 21 2009 8:15 pm
From: "C. E. White"
"M. Balmer" <boogerpicker@wazoo.net> wrote in message
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> the oddity is finding very many eight to ten year old F150's running the
> roads
You are kidding. I know of plenty of F150s 8 to 10 years old and many more
that are over 20 years old. I kept my 1992 F150 for 14 years. It is the
Toyota that disintegrate. I can't think of any other manufacturer that had
to recall vehicles because the frame rotted out. A good friend always brags
about how long his Tacoma lasted but he usually omits that he had to have
the transmission rebuilt twice and the engine replaced one. And he didn't
think the rust holes were significant.
Nothing wrong with Toyotas, but they are not in the same league with an F150
when it comes to toughness. They are great vehicles for people that really
needed a car.
Ed
> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2@lycos,com> wrote in message
> news:4addcb85$0$12271$ce5e7886@news-radius.ptd.net...
>> Really? If anyone actually wanted a Tundra they could have had their
>> pick at the Manheim Auto Auctions for as low as $25,000 just last month.
>>
>> I don't know were you live but I'm sure if you look around and you will
>> see plenty of twenty year old F150's still running on the roadways. One
>> old Tundra is an oddity ;)
>>
>>
>> "SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4addc5ba$0$1632$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>>> C. E. White wrote:
>>>> Has anyone notice the snap shot in the new Tundra Commercial? In the
>>>> commercial a contractor talks about when he started out 7 years ago he
>>>> needed a dependable truck and bought a Tundra (this in itself is
>>>> misleading - I doubt if 1 in a 100 contractor considered a Tunda in
>>>> 2002).
>>>
>>> The only contractor I've used had a Tundra of that era. He still has it
>>> with nearly 300K miles on it. His feeling is that it's better to spend a
>>> little more for a truck that will not need replacing every few years,
>>> but it's true that the Tundra cost more than your standard Ford, Chevy,
>>> or Dodge truck.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 21 2009 8:22 pm
From: "JoeSpareBedroom"
"C. E. White" <cewhite3remove@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>
> "M. Balmer" <boogerpicker@wazoo.net> wrote in message
> news:TBuDm.1340$OY2.1255@newsfe22.iad...
>> the oddity is finding very many eight to ten year old F150's running the
>> roads
>
> You are kidding. I know of plenty of F150s 8 to 10 years old and many
> more that are over 20 years old. I kept my 1992 F150 for 14 years. It is
> the Toyota that disintegrate. I can't think of any other manufacturer that
> had to recall vehicles because the frame rotted out. A good friend always
> brags about how long his Tacoma lasted but he usually omits that he had to
> have the transmission rebuilt twice and the engine replaced one. And he
> didn't think the rust holes were significant.
>
> Nothing wrong with Toyotas, but they are not in the same league with an
> F150 when it comes to toughness. They are great vehicles for people that
> really needed a car.
>
> Ed
By "toughness", do you mean the ability to withstand use by professionals
who beat the crap out of a truck, like masons, carpenters, etc?
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TOPIC: No salvation for you, reprobate! (Mormon teaching enclosed)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos/t/e10b656ee411c1b9?hl=en
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== 1 of 16 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 21 2009 6:06 am
From: "Stormin Mormon"
Below is a summary of Mormon teachings. Because many people
are ill informed about what Mormons really teach, it's a
good idea to meet with real Mormons, and even attend real
Mormon Sunday services, at least once.
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THE ARTICLES
OF FAITH.
In the spring of 1842, the Prophet Joseph Smith sent a
letter to John Wentworth, who was editor of a newspaper
called the Chicago Democrat. This letter contained an
account of many of the events of early Church history. The
document also contained thirteen statements outlining
Latter-day Saint beliefs. These have come to be known as the
Articles of Faith, which are given below.
The Articles of Faith are official doctrine of the Church
and have been canonized as a part of latter-day scripture.
They are clear statements of belief that help members
understand the basic beliefs of the Church and explain these
beliefs to others. They are not, however, a complete summary
of Church doctrine. Through living prophets, the Church is
guided by continuous revelation and inspiration.
1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son,
Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins,
and not for Adam's transgression.
3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all
mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and
ordinances of the Gospel.
4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of
the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ;
second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the
remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift
of the Holy Ghost.
5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy,
and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority,
to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances
thereof.
6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the
Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors,
teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation,
visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it
is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon
to be the word of God.
9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does
now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many
great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the
restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem)
will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will
reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be
renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God
according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow
all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or
what they may.
12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents,
rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and
sustaining the law.
13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent,
virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say
that we follow the admonition of Paul--We believe all
things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and
hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything
virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek
after these things.
Joseph Smith.
--
Christopher A. Young
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