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TOPIC: Need New Key, 2011 Fit
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== 1 of 19 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 12 2011 4:50 pm
From: Tegger
Dan Wenz <djwenz@verizon.net> wrote in news:j4jkhd$7qg$2@dont-email.me:
> I've managed to lose, over a 7 month period, both keys, and wonder
> whether a new key can be programed by the dealer with use of the vin# or
> need to have the car towed to the dealer, who I'll be calling tomorrow,
> Sep. 12.
Can you find the Valet key? This one will allow the car to be started and
driven to the dealership.
The computer **DOES NOT** need to be replaced!
--
Tegger
== 2 of 19 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 13 2011 2:37 am
From: "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
In article <Xns9F5EC989C907tegger@208.90.168.18>,
Tegger <invalid@example.com> wrote:
> Dan Wenz <djwenz@verizon.net> wrote in news:j4jkhd$7qg$2@dont-email.me:
>
> > I've managed to lose, over a 7 month period, both keys, and wonder
> > whether a new key can be programed by the dealer with use of the vin# or
> > need to have the car towed to the dealer, who I'll be calling tomorrow,
> > Sep. 12.
>
>
>
> Can you find the Valet key? This one will allow the car to be started and
> driven to the dealership.
>
> The computer **DOES NOT** need to be replaced!
I was poking around the other day, searching for how to replace a Prius
key--and discovered the "dance" one can do to match up a new, unused key
(it's actually an electronic box, not even a metal key, that goes in a
slot) to the computer. New key cost is between $90 and $150, depending
on your source.
One could also ask the dealer to use his scantool to match the key up.
This works even if you've lost both your keys.
But--and this is a big but--some dealers, whether out out of ignorance
or out of malicious profit-seeking, tell the customers that the computer
needs replaced at a cost of $1500 for the whole job.
Thank goodness for the internet...
== 3 of 19 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 13 2011 4:13 am
From: News
On 9/13/2011 5:37 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article<Xns9F5EC989C907tegger@208.90.168.18>,
> Tegger<invalid@example.com> wrote:
>
>> Dan Wenz<djwenz@verizon.net> wrote in news:j4jkhd$7qg$2@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> I've managed to lose, over a 7 month period, both keys, and wonder
>>> whether a new key can be programed by the dealer with use of the vin# or
>>> need to have the car towed to the dealer, who I'll be calling tomorrow,
>>> Sep. 12.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can you find the Valet key? This one will allow the car to be started and
>> driven to the dealership.
>>
>> The computer **DOES NOT** need to be replaced!
>
> I was poking around the other day, searching for how to replace a Prius
> key--and discovered the "dance" one can do to match up a new, unused key
> (it's actually an electronic box, not even a metal key, that goes in a
> slot) to the computer. New key cost is between $90 and $150, depending
> on your source.
>
> One could also ask the dealer to use his scantool to match the key up.
>
> This works even if you've lost both your keys.
>
> But--and this is a big but--some dealers, whether out out of ignorance
> or out of malicious profit-seeking, tell the customers that the computer
> needs replaced at a cost of $1500 for the whole job.
>
> Thank goodness for the internet...
Care to share?
== 4 of 19 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 13 2011 10:13 am
From: Dan Wenz
On 9/12/2011 7:45 PM, Stewart wrote:
>
> You can get a key with the vin from a dealer...just be prepared to pay
> a handsome sum.
>
>
I did, about $55, but in the absence of the car, the key will allow
entrance, but not start the engine. I will still need a tow.
== 5 of 19 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 13 2011 10:15 am
From: Dan Wenz
On 9/12/2011 7:50 PM, Tegger wrote:
> Dan Wenz<djwenz@verizon.net> wrote in news:j4jkhd$7qg$2@dont-email.me:
>
>> I've managed to lose, over a 7 month period, both keys, and wonder
>> whether a new key can be programed by the dealer with use of the vin# or
>> need to have the car towed to the dealer, who I'll be calling tomorrow,
>> Sep. 12.
>
>
>
> Can you find the Valet key? This one will allow the car to be started and
> driven to the dealership.
>
> The computer **DOES NOT** need to be replaced!
That option wasn't mentioned by the parts guy, and I have no keys
available other than the new one(s) I bought a day ago from the Honda
service department, allowing access but not an engine start.
== 6 of 19 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 13 2011 10:17 am
From: Dan Wenz
On 9/13/2011 1:13 PM, Dan Wenz wrote:
> On 9/12/2011 7:45 PM, Stewart wrote:
>
>>
>> You can get a key with the vin from a dealer...just be prepared to pay
>> a handsome sum.
>>
>>
>
> I did, about $55, but in the absence of the car, the key will allow
> entrance, but not start the engine. I will still need a tow.
Absence, that is, from Honda's service dept.:-)
== 7 of 19 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 13 2011 10:19 am
From: Dan Wenz
On 9/13/2011 5:37 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>
> One could also ask the dealer to use his scantool to match the key up.
The car's in my driveway, not at the dealer's!
== 8 of 19 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 13 2011 10:39 am
From: "Douglas C. Neidermeyer"
On 9/13/11 1:19 PM, Dan Wenz wrote:
> On 9/13/2011 5:37 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>
>
>>
>> One could also ask the dealer to use his scantool to match the key up.
>
>
> The car's in my driveway, not at the dealer's!
Just wondering-- if the car is in your driveway, the key is laying
around the house someplace, no? And however did you manage to lose two
keys within a several month period?
--
Respectfully submitted,
Douglas C. Neidermeyer,
Sergeant-at-Arms
== 9 of 19 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 13 2011 1:02 pm
From: "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
In article <j4o36e$qct$3@dont-email.me>, Dan Wenz <djwenz@verizon.net>
wrote:
> > I did, about $55, but in the absence of the car, the key will allow
> > entrance, but not start the engine. I will still need a tow.
>
> Absence, that is, from Honda's service dept.:-)
reminds me of the old joke about the dentist and the patient with an
abcessed tooth, the punch line of which is "Abscess makes the fart go
Honda".
== 10 of 19 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 13 2011 1:07 pm
From: "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
In article <BNOdnWY6irF0p_LTnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
News <News@Group.Post> wrote:
> On 9/13/2011 5:37 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> > In article<Xns9F5EC989C907tegger@208.90.168.18>,
> > Tegger<invalid@example.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Dan Wenz<djwenz@verizon.net> wrote in news:j4jkhd$7qg$2@dont-email.me:
> >>
> >>> I've managed to lose, over a 7 month period, both keys, and wonder
> >>> whether a new key can be programed by the dealer with use of the vin# or
> >>> need to have the car towed to the dealer, who I'll be calling tomorrow,
> >>> Sep. 12.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Can you find the Valet key? This one will allow the car to be started and
> >> driven to the dealership.
> >>
> >> The computer **DOES NOT** need to be replaced!
> >
> > I was poking around the other day, searching for how to replace a Prius
> > key--and discovered the "dance" one can do to match up a new, unused key
> > (it's actually an electronic box, not even a metal key, that goes in a
> > slot) to the computer. New key cost is between $90 and $150, depending
> > on your source.
> >
> > One could also ask the dealer to use his scantool to match the key up.
> >
> > This works even if you've lost both your keys.
> >
> > But--and this is a big but--some dealers, whether out out of ignorance
> > or out of malicious profit-seeking, tell the customers that the computer
> > needs replaced at a cost of $1500 for the whole job.
> >
> > Thank goodness for the internet...
>
>
> Care to share?
from the notes I saved:
http://www.yesimauto.com/auto-makes/how_much_is_a_tentative_prius_smart_p
ush_button27.html
2007 Prius
Toyota part number 89071-47180, has the black Toyota logo on the back.
(Smart Key System keys have the silver label on the back, is part number
89994-47061.)
Mechanical key is Toyota part number 69515-47010
Beware buying keys off Ebay; online Toyota dealers sell them for around
$150
Ok folks THIS is really how you do this, and yes it really does work. I
bought three old keys on ebay anywhere from $23.52 to $50 even. Make
sure you have on your original key and have looked on the back for a
black toyota logo. This WILL NOT work for the smart keys with the SILVER
toyota logo. To get started go to ebay and find an auction for a black
logo key. Bid and win and when it gets there, follow these instructions
carefully.
The Fob (for operating the car)
This isn't hard, as long as your new fob is not broken and you are able
to follow simple directions. The whole process will take less than two
minutes.
1. Insert old fob into slot and remove it 4 times in a row, and insert
it a fifth time but leave it in there!
2. Open and close driver door 6 times.
3. Remove old fob from slot. Car is in fob programming mode at this
point.
4. Insert new fob and leave in the slot for a full minute. Watch the
blinking red anti-theft light on the dashboard. When it stops flashing
and goes dark, your new fob is all set.
5. Remove the new fob and you're done. You should test both fobs to be
sure they work properly.
Now for the door lock functions.
The Fob (for remotely unlocking/locking the doors)
1. Open the driver door with no fob in slot and the driver door unlocked
and opened. Other doors can be locked or unlocked, it doesn't matter.
2. Insert old fob into slot and remove it twice within 5 seconds.
3. Close and open driver door twice.
4. Insert and remove old fob once.
5. Close and open driver door twice again.
6. Insert old fob in slot and close door.
7. Without pressing the brake, press power button, wait a second, press
it again, wait a second, press it a third time to turn car back off.
8. Remove old fob from slot. You'll be in "add mode" at this point.
9. Car should lock and unlock doors TWICE to verify it is in add mode.
10. Press both buttons on new fob simultaneously for a second and a
half!.
11 Within 3 seconds, press only the lock symbol button. yes it does
matter which!
12. Car should respond with one quick lock/unlock to verify that the new
fob is all set. If the car responds with two lock/unlocks, that means it
didn't work. I don't know how to troubleshoot that problem. Maybe just
try again.
13. To end this programming, open a door or put fob in the slot.
14. Enjoy the savings from NOT buying a fob from the dealership!!!!!
15. If you want metal keys, DO not buy them from ebay, they quoted me
$7.92 CUT by them from dealer.
ALSO:
if you lose ALL YOUR KEYS, tow the vehicle to your local toyota dealer,
or a friend with the scan tool (preferred, heh) you will need your
license and a copy of the registration (so they say, heh) and they
obtain the six digit password from the vin number, enter it into the
scantool, and the scantool erases all the master keys, and allows the
dealer to enter in new keys.
make sure they connect the 12v battery to a charger/tender during the
reflashing sequence.
NO NEED to replace the computer!!!
== 11 of 19 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 13 2011 1:34 pm
From: jim beam
On 09/13/2011 01:07 PM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article<BNOdnWY6irF0p_LTnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
> News<News@Group.Post> wrote:
>
>> On 9/13/2011 5:37 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>>> In article<Xns9F5EC989C907tegger@208.90.168.18>,
>>> Tegger<invalid@example.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dan Wenz<djwenz@verizon.net> wrote in news:j4jkhd$7qg$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> I've managed to lose, over a 7 month period, both keys, and wonder
>>>>> whether a new key can be programed by the dealer with use of the vin# or
>>>>> need to have the car towed to the dealer, who I'll be calling tomorrow,
>>>>> Sep. 12.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can you find the Valet key? This one will allow the car to be started and
>>>> driven to the dealership.
>>>>
>>>> The computer **DOES NOT** need to be replaced!
>>>
>>> I was poking around the other day, searching for how to replace a Prius
>>> key--and discovered the "dance" one can do to match up a new, unused key
>>> (it's actually an electronic box, not even a metal key, that goes in a
>>> slot) to the computer. New key cost is between $90 and $150, depending
>>> on your source.
>>>
>>> One could also ask the dealer to use his scantool to match the key up.
>>>
>>> This works even if you've lost both your keys.
>>>
>>> But--and this is a big but--some dealers, whether out out of ignorance
>>> or out of malicious profit-seeking, tell the customers that the computer
>>> needs replaced at a cost of $1500 for the whole job.
>>>
>>> Thank goodness for the internet...
>>
>>
>> Care to share?
>
> from the notes I saved:
>
> http://www.yesimauto.com/auto-makes/how_much_is_a_tentative_prius_smart_p
> ush_button27.html
>
> 2007 Prius
> Toyota part number 89071-47180, has the black Toyota logo on the back.
> (Smart Key System keys have the silver label on the back, is part number
> 89994-47061.)
> Mechanical key is Toyota part number 69515-47010
> Beware buying keys off Ebay; online Toyota dealers sell them for around
> $150
>
> Ok folks THIS is really how you do this, and yes it really does work. I
> bought three old keys on ebay anywhere from $23.52 to $50 even. Make
> sure you have on your original key and have looked on the back for a
> black toyota logo. This WILL NOT work for the smart keys with the SILVER
> toyota logo. To get started go to ebay and find an auction for a black
> logo key. Bid and win and when it gets there, follow these instructions
> carefully.
>
> The Fob (for operating the car)
> This isn't hard, as long as your new fob is not broken and you are able
> to follow simple directions. The whole process will take less than two
> minutes.
>
> 1. Insert old fob into slot and remove it 4 times in a row, and insert
> it a fifth time but leave it in there!
> 2. Open and close driver door 6 times.
> 3. Remove old fob from slot. Car is in fob programming mode at this
> point.
> 4. Insert new fob and leave in the slot for a full minute. Watch the
> blinking red anti-theft light on the dashboard. When it stops flashing
> and goes dark, your new fob is all set.
> 5. Remove the new fob and you're done. You should test both fobs to be
> sure they work properly.
>
>
> Now for the door lock functions.
>
>
> The Fob (for remotely unlocking/locking the doors)
> 1. Open the driver door with no fob in slot and the driver door unlocked
> and opened. Other doors can be locked or unlocked, it doesn't matter.
> 2. Insert old fob into slot and remove it twice within 5 seconds.
> 3. Close and open driver door twice.
> 4. Insert and remove old fob once.
> 5. Close and open driver door twice again.
> 6. Insert old fob in slot and close door.
> 7. Without pressing the brake, press power button, wait a second, press
> it again, wait a second, press it a third time to turn car back off.
> 8. Remove old fob from slot. You'll be in "add mode" at this point.
> 9. Car should lock and unlock doors TWICE to verify it is in add mode.
> 10. Press both buttons on new fob simultaneously for a second and a
> half!.
> 11 Within 3 seconds, press only the lock symbol button. yes it does
> matter which!
> 12. Car should respond with one quick lock/unlock to verify that the new
> fob is all set. If the car responds with two lock/unlocks, that means it
> didn't work. I don't know how to troubleshoot that problem. Maybe just
> try again.
> 13. To end this programming, open a door or put fob in the slot.
> 14. Enjoy the savings from NOT buying a fob from the dealership!!!!!
> 15. If you want metal keys, DO not buy them from ebay, they quoted me
> $7.92 CUT by them from dealer.
>
>
> ALSO:
>
> if you lose ALL YOUR KEYS, tow the vehicle to your local toyota dealer,
> or a friend with the scan tool (preferred, heh) you will need your
> license and a copy of the registration (so they say, heh) and they
> obtain the six digit password from the vin number, enter it into the
> scantool, and the scantool erases all the master keys, and allows the
> dealer to enter in new keys.
>
> make sure they connect the 12v battery to a charger/tender during the
> reflashing sequence.
>
> NO NEED to replace the computer!!!
damn you to heck elmo - you're stealing food out of dealers' childrens'
mouths.
--
nomina rutrum rutrum
== 12 of 19 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 13 2011 2:49 pm
From: "Douglas C. Neidermeyer"
On 9/13/11 4:07 PM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article<BNOdnWY6irF0p_LTnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
> News<News@Group.Post> wrote:
>
>> On 9/13/2011 5:37 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>>> In article<Xns9F5EC989C907tegger@208.90.168.18>,
>>> Tegger<invalid@example.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dan Wenz<djwenz@verizon.net> wrote in news:j4jkhd$7qg$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> I've managed to lose, over a 7 month period, both keys, and wonder
>>>>> whether a new key can be programed by the dealer with use of the vin# or
>>>>> need to have the car towed to the dealer, who I'll be calling tomorrow,
>>>>> Sep. 12.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can you find the Valet key? This one will allow the car to be started and
>>>> driven to the dealership.
>>>>
>>>> The computer **DOES NOT** need to be replaced!
>>>
>>> I was poking around the other day, searching for how to replace a Prius
>>> key--and discovered the "dance" one can do to match up a new, unused key
>>> (it's actually an electronic box, not even a metal key, that goes in a
>>> slot) to the computer. New key cost is between $90 and $150, depending
>>> on your source.
>>>
>>> One could also ask the dealer to use his scantool to match the key up.
>>>
>>> This works even if you've lost both your keys.
>>>
>>> But--and this is a big but--some dealers, whether out out of ignorance
>>> or out of malicious profit-seeking, tell the customers that the computer
>>> needs replaced at a cost of $1500 for the whole job.
>>>
>>> Thank goodness for the internet...
>>
>>
>> Care to share?
>
> from the notes I saved:
>
> http://www.yesimauto.com/auto-makes/how_much_is_a_tentative_prius_smart_p
> ush_button27.html
>
> 2007 Prius
> Toyota part number 89071-47180, has the black Toyota logo on the back.
> (Smart Key System keys have the silver label on the back, is part number
> 89994-47061.)
> Mechanical key is Toyota part number 69515-47010
> Beware buying keys off Ebay; online Toyota dealers sell them for around
> $150
>
> Ok folks THIS is really how you do this, and yes it really does work. I
> bought three old keys on ebay anywhere from $23.52 to $50 even. Make
> sure you have on your original key and have looked on the back for a
> black toyota logo. This WILL NOT work for the smart keys with the SILVER
> toyota logo. To get started go to ebay and find an auction for a black
> logo key. Bid and win and when it gets there, follow these instructions
> carefully.
>
> The Fob (for operating the car)
> This isn't hard, as long as your new fob is not broken and you are able
> to follow simple directions. The whole process will take less than two
> minutes.
>
> 1. Insert old fob into slot and remove it 4 times in a row, and insert
> it a fifth time but leave it in there!
> 2. Open and close driver door 6 times.
> 3. Remove old fob from slot. Car is in fob programming mode at this
> point.
> 4. Insert new fob and leave in the slot for a full minute. Watch the
> blinking red anti-theft light on the dashboard. When it stops flashing
> and goes dark, your new fob is all set.
> 5. Remove the new fob and you're done. You should test both fobs to be
> sure they work properly.
>
>
> Now for the door lock functions.
>
>
> The Fob (for remotely unlocking/locking the doors)
> 1. Open the driver door with no fob in slot and the driver door unlocked
> and opened. Other doors can be locked or unlocked, it doesn't matter.
> 2. Insert old fob into slot and remove it twice within 5 seconds.
> 3. Close and open driver door twice.
> 4. Insert and remove old fob once.
> 5. Close and open driver door twice again.
> 6. Insert old fob in slot and close door.
> 7. Without pressing the brake, press power button, wait a second, press
> it again, wait a second, press it a third time to turn car back off.
> 8. Remove old fob from slot. You'll be in "add mode" at this point.
> 9. Car should lock and unlock doors TWICE to verify it is in add mode.
> 10. Press both buttons on new fob simultaneously for a second and a
> half!.
> 11 Within 3 seconds, press only the lock symbol button. yes it does
> matter which!
> 12. Car should respond with one quick lock/unlock to verify that the new
> fob is all set. If the car responds with two lock/unlocks, that means it
> didn't work. I don't know how to troubleshoot that problem. Maybe just
> try again.
> 13. To end this programming, open a door or put fob in the slot.
> 14. Enjoy the savings from NOT buying a fob from the dealership!!!!!
> 15. If you want metal keys, DO not buy them from ebay, they quoted me
> $7.92 CUT by them from dealer.
>
>
> ALSO:
>
> if you lose ALL YOUR KEYS, tow the vehicle to your local toyota dealer,
> or a friend with the scan tool (preferred, heh) you will need your
> license and a copy of the registration (so they say, heh) and they
> obtain the six digit password from the vin number, enter it into the
> scantool, and the scantool erases all the master keys, and allows the
> dealer to enter in new keys.
>
> make sure they connect the 12v battery to a charger/tender during the
> reflashing sequence.
>
> NO NEED to replace the computer!!!
That's some chicken dance!
I heard it works better though if you wear a torn blue t-shirt, a
two-color baseball cap, and spit tobacco juice out the driver's window
twice between steps four and five. Also, if you cough, sneeze, or fart
during the sequence, you have to start over.
--
Respectfully submitted,
Douglas C. Neidermeyer,
Sergeant-at-Arms
== 13 of 19 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 13 2011 4:20 pm
From: "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
In article <j4oj5q$mdl$1@news.albasani.net>,
"Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.edu> wrote:
> That's some chicken dance!
>
> I heard it works better though if you wear a torn blue t-shirt, a
> two-color baseball cap, and spit tobacco juice out the driver's window
> twice between steps four and five. Also, if you cough, sneeze, or fart
> during the sequence, you have to start over.
Wet farts, though, are OK.
== 14 of 19 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 13 2011 4:22 pm
From: "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
In article <UvGdnY7xqY3rI_LTnZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
jim beam <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> > NO NEED to replace the computer!!!
>
> damn you to heck elmo - you're stealing food out of dealers' childrens'
> mouths.
yeah, just like this one:
http://www.imakenews.com/germainhondadublin/e_article002083766.cfm?x=b11,
0,w
10 years ago she was doing cutesy commercials with her daddy. She gets
out of college back in May, and her daddy hands her the keys to the
Honda dealership.
== 15 of 19 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 13 2011 4:48 pm
From: News
On 9/13/2011 4:34 PM, jim beam wrote:
> On 09/13/2011 01:07 PM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>> In article<BNOdnWY6irF0p_LTnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
>> News<News@Group.Post> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/13/2011 5:37 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>> In article<Xns9F5EC989C907tegger@208.90.168.18>,
>>>> Tegger<invalid@example.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dan Wenz<djwenz@verizon.net> wrote in news:j4jkhd$7qg$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've managed to lose, over a 7 month period, both keys, and wonder
>>>>>> whether a new key can be programed by the dealer with use of the
>>>>>> vin# or
>>>>>> need to have the car towed to the dealer, who I'll be calling
>>>>>> tomorrow,
>>>>>> Sep. 12.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you find the Valet key? This one will allow the car to be
>>>>> started and
>>>>> driven to the dealership.
>>>>>
>>>>> The computer **DOES NOT** need to be replaced!
>>>>
>>>> I was poking around the other day, searching for how to replace a Prius
>>>> key--and discovered the "dance" one can do to match up a new, unused
>>>> key
>>>> (it's actually an electronic box, not even a metal key, that goes in a
>>>> slot) to the computer. New key cost is between $90 and $150, depending
>>>> on your source.
>>>>
>>>> One could also ask the dealer to use his scantool to match the key up.
>>>>
>>>> This works even if you've lost both your keys.
>>>>
>>>> But--and this is a big but--some dealers, whether out out of ignorance
>>>> or out of malicious profit-seeking, tell the customers that the
>>>> computer
>>>> needs replaced at a cost of $1500 for the whole job.
>>>>
>>>> Thank goodness for the internet...
>>>
>>>
>>> Care to share?
>>
>> from the notes I saved:
>>
>> http://www.yesimauto.com/auto-makes/how_much_is_a_tentative_prius_smart_p
>> ush_button27.html
>>
>> 2007 Prius
>> Toyota part number 89071-47180, has the black Toyota logo on the back.
>> (Smart Key System keys have the silver label on the back, is part number
>> 89994-47061.)
>> Mechanical key is Toyota part number 69515-47010
>> Beware buying keys off Ebay; online Toyota dealers sell them for around
>> $150
>>
>> Ok folks THIS is really how you do this, and yes it really does work. I
>> bought three old keys on ebay anywhere from $23.52 to $50 even. Make
>> sure you have on your original key and have looked on the back for a
>> black toyota logo. This WILL NOT work for the smart keys with the SILVER
>> toyota logo. To get started go to ebay and find an auction for a black
>> logo key. Bid and win and when it gets there, follow these instructions
>> carefully.
>>
>> The Fob (for operating the car)
>> This isn't hard, as long as your new fob is not broken and you are able
>> to follow simple directions. The whole process will take less than two
>> minutes.
>>
>> 1. Insert old fob into slot and remove it 4 times in a row, and insert
>> it a fifth time but leave it in there!
>> 2. Open and close driver door 6 times.
>> 3. Remove old fob from slot. Car is in fob programming mode at this
>> point.
>> 4. Insert new fob and leave in the slot for a full minute. Watch the
>> blinking red anti-theft light on the dashboard. When it stops flashing
>> and goes dark, your new fob is all set.
>> 5. Remove the new fob and you're done. You should test both fobs to be
>> sure they work properly.
>>
>>
>> Now for the door lock functions.
>>
>>
>> The Fob (for remotely unlocking/locking the doors)
>> 1. Open the driver door with no fob in slot and the driver door unlocked
>> and opened. Other doors can be locked or unlocked, it doesn't matter.
>> 2. Insert old fob into slot and remove it twice within 5 seconds.
>> 3. Close and open driver door twice.
>> 4. Insert and remove old fob once.
>> 5. Close and open driver door twice again.
>> 6. Insert old fob in slot and close door.
>> 7. Without pressing the brake, press power button, wait a second, press
>> it again, wait a second, press it a third time to turn car back off.
>> 8. Remove old fob from slot. You'll be in "add mode" at this point.
>> 9. Car should lock and unlock doors TWICE to verify it is in add mode.
>> 10. Press both buttons on new fob simultaneously for a second and a
>> half!.
>> 11 Within 3 seconds, press only the lock symbol button. yes it does
>> matter which!
>> 12. Car should respond with one quick lock/unlock to verify that the new
>> fob is all set. If the car responds with two lock/unlocks, that means it
>> didn't work. I don't know how to troubleshoot that problem. Maybe just
>> try again.
>> 13. To end this programming, open a door or put fob in the slot.
>> 14. Enjoy the savings from NOT buying a fob from the dealership!!!!!
>> 15. If you want metal keys, DO not buy them from ebay, they quoted me
>> $7.92 CUT by them from dealer.
>>
>>
>> ALSO:
>>
>> if you lose ALL YOUR KEYS, tow the vehicle to your local toyota dealer,
>> or a friend with the scan tool (preferred, heh) you will need your
>> license and a copy of the registration (so they say, heh) and they
>> obtain the six digit password from the vin number, enter it into the
>> scantool, and the scantool erases all the master keys, and allows the
>> dealer to enter in new keys.
>>
>> make sure they connect the 12v battery to a charger/tender during the
>> reflashing sequence.
>>
>> NO NEED to replace the computer!!!
>
> damn you to heck elmo - you're stealing food out of dealers' childrens'
> mouths.
>
>
There's a Honda dealer I'd like to starve. Have any other ideas?
== 16 of 19 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 13 2011 5:07 pm
From: jim beam
On 09/13/2011 04:48 PM, News wrote:
> On 9/13/2011 4:34 PM, jim beam wrote:
>> On 09/13/2011 01:07 PM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>>> In article<BNOdnWY6irF0p_LTnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
>>> News<News@Group.Post> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/13/2011 5:37 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>>> In article<Xns9F5EC989C907tegger@208.90.168.18>,
>>>>> Tegger<invalid@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan Wenz<djwenz@verizon.net> wrote in
>>>>>> news:j4jkhd$7qg$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've managed to lose, over a 7 month period, both keys, and wonder
>>>>>>> whether a new key can be programed by the dealer with use of the
>>>>>>> vin# or
>>>>>>> need to have the car towed to the dealer, who I'll be calling
>>>>>>> tomorrow,
>>>>>>> Sep. 12.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you find the Valet key? This one will allow the car to be
>>>>>> started and
>>>>>> driven to the dealership.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The computer **DOES NOT** need to be replaced!
>>>>>
>>>>> I was poking around the other day, searching for how to replace a
>>>>> Prius
>>>>> key--and discovered the "dance" one can do to match up a new, unused
>>>>> key
>>>>> (it's actually an electronic box, not even a metal key, that goes in a
>>>>> slot) to the computer. New key cost is between $90 and $150, depending
>>>>> on your source.
>>>>>
>>>>> One could also ask the dealer to use his scantool to match the key up
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