Tuesday, October 18, 2011

rec.autos.makers.honda - 2 new messages in 2 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* New Honda being delivered Wednesday - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/a2fd4d4d862b1299?hl=en
* CR-V safety recall - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/7f6574cc29577606?hl=en

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TOPIC: New Honda being delivered Wednesday
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/a2fd4d4d862b1299?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 16 2011 4:53 am
From: "tww1491"


"Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote in message
news:elmop-26E4A0.12522210122010@news.eternal-september.org...

In article <idt7vr$517$1@nocheese.eternal-september.org>,
"Seth" <sethNOSPAM@NOSPAMclcpro.com> wrote:

> > I am sorry you're buying another Honda. You'll find out why soon
> > enough. Honda isn't the company it was 10 years ago.
>
> That's sad to hear. But really, what else is the alternative in that
> class
> (both price and what you get for it)? Our 2007 Odyssey has been holding up
> well. Over 60k on that already.

Believe it or not, Hyundai (I think) if you're talking that level of
market. Certainly Nissan.

Indeed. Current offerings by Honda have led me to look at Hyundai/Kia and
the Altima.

If you're dead-set on a Honda, buy Acura--they still seem to care at
that level (also see Infiniti). But Honda has turned into a big bag of
shit over the last ten years, and what they're turning out today is
pitiful.

Yes, I have some inside information on that.


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TOPIC: CR-V safety recall
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/7f6574cc29577606?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 17 2011 7:18 pm
From: Al


On 10/10/2011 10:43 PM, Michael wrote:
>
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
> news:elmop-53A122.18370509102011@news.eternal-september.org...
>> In article <Xns9F79BA98F97F7tegger@208.90.168.18>,
>> Tegger <invalid@example.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This one is just a software flash.
>>
>>

I received this recall notification for my 2010 CR-V but in addition to
the transmission software update discussed in this thread it also
informs me of a "Product Update: Software to Improve Fuel Injector and
VTC Timing"

I'm not too concerned about the transmission thing because in 50 years I
have never "rapidly shifted between D-N-R at high RPM" If all they are
doing is changing the software so that I can't do what I wouldn't do
then I'll not ever be aware that they did it and it doesn't matter to
me. With Honda's transmission track record I'm afraid to not let them do
this to protect my warranty.

I am more concerned about the "product update" which wasn't mentioned by
the other posters. This one scares me because the CR-V does not have
any power to spare and this seems like it may involve a de-tuning. Here
is what the notice says:

What is the problem? On some 2010 CR-Vs, the fuel injector timing and
VTC timing at cold start may create deposits on the oil control rings
that could contribute to increased oil consumption.

The dealer will update the powertrain control module (PCM) software.

Does anyone have any further info on this, or has anyone let them do it?
Until I get convinced they are not going to cost me power or
responsiveness I'm not going to let them do it. On the other hand if if
somehow increases power I'll get to my friendly dealer tomorrow.

(BTW my "power" gripe is only from dead stop to 10 mph)

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