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* "not sure what he'll do with the old one" - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Million mile Honda - 6 messages, 4 authors
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TOPIC: "not sure what he'll do with the old one"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/d6d36e2d3c2ff350?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 24 2011 4:04 pm
From: Tegger
jim beam <me@privacy.net> wrote in news:j83v4a$rt6$1@speranza.aioe.org:
> http://news.yahoo.com/maine-mans-car-goes-1-million-miles-121712831.html
>
> keep it and sell the new one.
>
>
When Toyota received notice that one of their vehicles was nearing the
million-mile mark (a "service vehicle" operated by a California business),
the woman in charge warned the owners NOT to allow the odometer to go all-
zeros. She said the owners should call her when it hit 999,999, and Toyota
would pick up the vehicle with a flatbed, wherever it was. And this they
did, with 999,999 showing on the odometer.
The business was given a new vehicle to replace the old, and the old is
supposedly now in the Toyota museum in Long Beach. That's what I read.
Anybody near Long Beach who wants to check that out?
And all I've got is 374,000 on the 'Teg. No free Honda for me. :^(
--
Tegger
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TOPIC: Million mile Honda
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/8c05c7e33f05c5a7?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 25 2011 8:05 am
From: "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
Joe is an ex-mechanic and he did most of the work on it. His secret to
keeping the car alive so long? Following regular maintenance schedules,
using only good parts, and obeying the rules for safe driving....
...not to mention starting with a 1990 Accord.
Good luck translating that to a new Honda.
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 25 2011 8:25 am
From: "C. E. White"
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:<elmop-591F83.11054325102011@news.eternal-september.org>...
> http://www.pressherald.com/news/Honda-goes-the-distance-1-million-miles_2
> 011-10-24.html?searchterm=million+miles
>
> Joe is an ex-mechanic and he did most of the work on it. His secret to
> keeping the car alive so long? Following regular maintenance schedules,
> using only good parts, and obeying the rules for safe driving....
>
>
> ....not to mention starting with a 1990 Accord.
>
> Good luck translating that to a new Honda.
I think this is more tribute to the guys ability and patience than to the
vehicle.
I've never owned a car I wanted to drive for 20 years. Longest ever for me
was an F150, 14 years. I had nowhere near a million miles on it, but then I
never took the engine apart and put it back together either.
I believe if you drive a lot and keep up with maintenance, almost any
vehicle could do a million miles, but I still wonder why you would want to.
The most surpring thing to me is that Joe's Honda wasn't a rust riddled
hulk. The older Honda that my sister owned had multiple rust holes after 6
years and it was mostly driven in NC, where rust is not a major problem (at
least compared to the NE USA).
I don't see why a new Honda would be much different than a 1990. Just fix
what breaks and keep going.
Ed
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 25 2011 8:53 am
From: "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
In article <j86khl$4f7$1@dont-email.me>,
"C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote:
> I think this is more tribute to the guys ability and patience than to the
> vehicle.
>
> I've never owned a car I wanted to drive for 20 years.
Bah. Impatience costs money.
For those who need transportation, it doesn't matter. For those who
need toys, it does.
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 25 2011 8:53 am
From: "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
In article <j86khl$4f7$1@dont-email.me>,
"C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote:
> I don't see why a new Honda would be much different than a 1990. Just fix
> what breaks and keep going.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
Oh, you're a RIOT.
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 25 2011 11:04 am
From: jim beam
On 10/25/2011 08:25 AM, C. E. White wrote:
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty"<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
> news:<elmop-591F83.11054325102011@news.eternal-september.org>...
>> http://www.pressherald.com/news/Honda-goes-the-distance-1-million-miles_2
>> 011-10-24.html?searchterm=million+miles
>>
>> Joe is an ex-mechanic and he did most of the work on it. His secret to
>> keeping the car alive so long? Following regular maintenance schedules,
>> using only good parts, and obeying the rules for safe driving....
>>
>>
>> ....not to mention starting with a 1990 Accord.
>>
>> Good luck translating that to a new Honda.
>
> I think this is more tribute to the guys ability and patience than to the
> vehicle.
>
> I've never owned a car I wanted to drive for 20 years. Longest ever for me
> was an F150, 14 years. I had nowhere near a million miles on it, but then I
> never took the engine apart and put it back together either.
>
> I believe if you drive a lot and keep up with maintenance, almost any
> vehicle could do a million miles
not true. if you test the materials on these things, you'll find that
there are deep and fundamental differences that determine the potential
of a vehicle to last. crappy liners and crappy rings will never get
there. same with cheapo cams and followers - soft metal ground with
poor precision is just not capable of lasting. they'll both get you to
100k, and the cheap one, with anal maintenance maybe 300k, but a
million? never.
take the head off a 100k frod and feel the ridge on the liner where the
rings top out because the metal has worn away. this is a known wear
rate, and the tolerances on the rings are such that the projected
mileage is determined by how much ring/liner is left. just like wear on
a brake pad. take the head off the same mileage 1990 honda and not only
is there no ridge, it's still got the original cross-hatching on it.
that is a /significantly/ different wear rate. you can see this in oil
analysis numbers with the iron content too.
bottom line, only a few vehicles are built such that they can get to a
million miles, and it costs money to do that. that expenditure is not
considered "a good investment in building brand loyalty" these days.
>, but I still wonder why you would want to.
>
> The most surpring thing to me is that Joe's Honda wasn't a rust riddled
> hulk. The older Honda that my sister owned had multiple rust holes after 6
> years and it was mostly driven in NC, where rust is not a major problem (at
> least compared to the NE USA).
>
> I don't see why a new Honda would be much different than a 1990. Just fix
> what breaks and keep going.
most unlikely. honda have been cutting back on things like transmission
longevity, so it is most unlikely they're not also cutting back on
engine longevity too. it's part of the reason to move to cam chains
instead of belts - belts presume scheduled changes and continuing
operation. chains are "lasts the life of the engine", which is code for
"we've pre-determined the life, so you'd be wasting your time".
>
> Ed
>
>
>
>
--
nomina rutrum rutrum
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 25 2011 2:09 pm
From: Jim Yanik
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
591F83.11054325102011@news.eternal-september.org:
> http://www.pressherald.com/news/Honda-goes-the-distance-1-million-miles_2
> 011-10-24.html?searchterm=million+miles
>
> Joe is an ex-mechanic and he did most of the work on it. His secret to
> keeping the car alive so long? Following regular maintenance schedules,
> using only good parts, and obeying the rules for safe driving....
>
>
> ....not to mention starting with a 1990 Accord.
A -USED- Accord,it had 77K on it when he bought it.
>
> Good luck translating that to a new Honda.
>
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
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