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* CR-V safety recall - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Odyssey Low battery charge warning light - 5 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/11ca3da8e6b3dd83?hl=en
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TOPIC: CR-V safety recall
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/7f6574cc29577606?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 10 2011 7:43 pm
From: "Michael"
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-53A122.18370509102011@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <Xns9F79BA98F97F7tegger@208.90.168.18>,
> Tegger <invalid@example.com> wrote:
>
>> This one is just a software flash.
>
> hehehe Yeah, just like I had to get a new control module, complete with
> new software, when Honda replaced my 02 Odyssey transmission last year.
>
> And just like Honda reflashed the ECUs on all those Civic hybrids that
> were going through batteries.
>
> The SOLE purpose of this and all other Honda "software flashes" is to
> benefit Honda by making the car perform in such a way as to get it
> through the warranty period--never mind how the car performs for the
> customer afterward.
>
Not to mention the car is so underpowered afterward it will barely merge on
a highway properly. Once the battery gets toasted the system is constantly
charging a battery it never uses. My 1998 Taurus gets better gas mileage
than the 2006 Hybrid. Disgusting and I will NEVER own another Honda.
Period.
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TOPIC: Odyssey Low battery charge warning light
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/t/11ca3da8e6b3dd83?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 14 2011 4:03 pm
From: QX
Low battery charge warning light.
Does anyone know if Honda has cured this problem on the 2012 Odyssey?
Seems to be a real annoyance with the 2010 and 2011 models.
Thanks
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 14 2011 5:31 pm
From: Tegger
QX <Q@X.net> wrote in news:4rfh97hcboahj6dthutdlg3cd9vighsemr@4ax.com:
> Low battery charge warning light.
>
> Does anyone know if Honda has cured this problem on the 2012 Odyssey?
> Seems to be a real annoyance with the 2010 and 2011 models.
I'll bet it's an annoyance. But it's not a defect, it's a
Congress/Obama "feature".
Remember that new 35mpg CAFE standard? Guess how many hoops
Honda's trying to jump through to meet that standard and still
offer you a 3.5L V6 engine?
Read Honda's carefully-worded press release, here:
<http://www.hondanews.com/releases/2011-honda-odyssey-powertrain?query=odyssey>
Not that fuel economy is mentioned twice in the battery section.
Honda did something similar in the early-'90s, with a cruder form
of the "low battery" light. It was called the Electrical Load
Detector (ELD). It too was intended to increase gas mileage,
and it too caused myriad problems until Honda got the bugs
worked out.
You guys may feel confident and reassured when your elected
representatives ditch the gridlock and take decisive action,
but you sure don't like the side-effects!
--
Tegger
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 14 2011 7:51 pm
From: "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
In article <4rfh97hcboahj6dthutdlg3cd9vighsemr@4ax.com>, QX <Q@X.net>
wrote:
> Low battery charge warning light.
>
> Does anyone know if Honda has cured this problem on the 2012 Odyssey?
> Seems to be a real annoyance with the 2010 and 2011 models.
That's probably just to distract you from the grinding noises and the
smell from your transmission.
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 14 2011 7:56 pm
From: "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
In article <Xns9F7ED0C4EF403tegger@208.90.168.18>,
Tegger <invalid@example.com> wrote:
> QX <Q@X.net> wrote in news:4rfh97hcboahj6dthutdlg3cd9vighsemr@4ax.com:
>
> > Low battery charge warning light.
> >
> > Does anyone know if Honda has cured this problem on the 2012 Odyssey?
> > Seems to be a real annoyance with the 2010 and 2011 models.
>
>
>
> I'll bet it's an annoyance. But it's not a defect, it's a
> Congress/Obama "feature".
>
> Remember that new 35mpg CAFE standard? Guess how many hoops
> Honda's trying to jump through to meet that standard and still
> offer you a 3.5L V6 engine?
>
> Read Honda's carefully-worded press release, here:
> <http://www.hondanews.com/releases/2011-honda-odyssey-powertrain?query=odyssey
> >
> Not that fuel economy is mentioned twice in the battery section.
>
> Honda did something similar in the early-'90s, with a cruder form
> of the "low battery" light. It was called the Electrical Load
> Detector (ELD). It too was intended to increase gas mileage,
> and it too caused myriad problems until Honda got the bugs
> worked out.
>
> You guys may feel confident and reassured when your elected
> representatives ditch the gridlock and take decisive action,
> but you sure don't like the side-effects!
I like this:
"Should an Odyssey owner accidentally leave the headlights on or not
close a door causing an interior light to remain on, after a set period
of time the BMS will automatically terminate power delivery to prevent
the battery from going dead."
Ummmmm....I had a Subaru THIRTY YEARS AGO that simply tied the
headlights to the ignition. Ignition off, headlights off. Easy.
And Toyota for YEARS AND YEARS has turned off the headlights when you
open the door after turning off the car. Not rocket science AT ALL.
And yet, Honda for years just chimed at you. "Hey, turn the headlights
off! Even though it's clear by my chime that I know you want them off,
I'm too stupid to do that for you!"
This is Honda telling us how they've finally "invented" sliced bread.
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 14 2011 7:59 pm
From: "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
In article <Xns9F7ED0C4EF403tegger@208.90.168.18>,
Tegger <invalid@example.com> wrote:
> Read Honda's carefully-worded press release, here:
> <http://www.hondanews.com/releases/2011-honda-odyssey-powertrain?query=odyssey
> >
> Not that fuel economy is mentioned twice in the battery section.
Well, technically, only a single item regarding fuel economy was
mentioned there.
They told you WHAT they were going to tell you, then they TOLD you that.
The first mention was the introduction, outlining the benefits briefly.
Then the went into detail about the technology, one item at a time.
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